RE: Winchester Apex
I think they are like the CVA Kodiak ... are they not? I have never held one, only seen a picture of them like others. I personally think for the money they were asking for them there are better rifles out there that I would go after, but if you like the rifle then go for it.... Get what you like.
You might also want to look at the NEF Sidekick... nice rifle, break open design. American Steel and company, and great out of the box shooters from all the reports... just a thought.