I know you didn't want to take a jake and i'm the same way. Sometimes i think we put to much into not killing a jake. Most of us who get the chance to hunt a lot and a lot of places it's a good thing, but we shouldn't and i don't expect everyone to follow what we try to do. A lot of the guys here take a jake as the only bird they get all year. I don't have a problem with that. I was aked by the land owner to take a jake for him to eat this spring and i did. Had fun doing it too, was the first time my wife and i had doubled. Two nice birds, 15 and 16 pounds with 5 and 6 inch beards. Of course her's was the biggest!!