so elkcrazy= u are saying that it is o.k. that a brownie outfitter makes a living on 10 hunters a year? and u are o.k. with that? i sure will not cough up 1/2 of my 50+ hours work week of 50 weeks a year for that! i would work 1250 hours to pay for a 7-10 day hunt? i don't see how that is in anyway o.k. with me!

p.s. and i don't the wife or my 3 kids would go for that!

and i guess i did not make myself clear on the atv/horse thing! i do know that a horse is more work than an atv, but if u ride a horse to the top of a hill or a atv, u are still not using your own power to hunt! there is alot of poeple who say they are a great hunter on this sight. and they say big stories, and then mention i rode HORSE BACK for 8 miles to the base camp! thats fine but u are no better than i, who rode a atv 3 miles to camp!