ORIGINAL: max the dog
I've dropped a deer out to 225 yards with a 30-30 so it can be done.
For real? ....'splain how you did that!
For the originator of this thread.... I agree with the other 30-30 owners out there. The legendary 30-30 is a classic lightweight, easily carried, 100-150 yard rifle. The ammo can be had for as cheap as $9.95 a box. The recoil is nothing compared to the 30-06 or a 12GA shotgun.
Here's a rough idea (for whatever it's worth)
.22LR - no real hard kick/recoil
.25-06 - a mild tap on the shoulder
.270 - taps you on the shoulder
.30-30 - a little harder tap, letting you know you just fired a weapon
.30-06 - a hard tap to the shoulder and means business
300 WSM - doesn't tap but punches your shoulder!
12GA shotgun, 3" mag #00 buck - punches your shoulder hard
12GA shotgun, 1oz slug - will kick your a$$ and spins you around if not paying attention!
Butch A.