i lost respect for elkmaster when he said nobody can use a 270 in his elk camp, and if so u will not be welcome! that to me is a stupid statement. he does not care of what reason u shoot a 270, and he does not care, he is purely not in this thread open minded. he just doesn't like 270's and he does not care what the facts are he will still not allow one in his camp! i do not have to meet him personally to see he and i would have great difficulty getting along! this is not 1970's anymore. the new bullets that are reloaded for a 270, will have just as much killing power as a 30-06 off the wal-mart shelf. so if elkmaster really cares about game and ethical harvesting, he would ask more than do u shoot a 270. that is why i call him an idiot! u may not like it , but i don't sugarcoat anything! have a nice life![8D]