cayugad: Are you saying that you use a lubed patch, with a roundball, and leave your muzzleloader loaded for a few days, (hunting) and it still shoots with no noticible lack of performance. If so, that is great. I agree with all you say about lack of fowling, cleanup, etc. I have hunted with A.P.P., with sabots (dry), but plan on more traditional hunting, with patched roundballs, out of flinters, and sidelocks this year.