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stealthsniper96 02-21-2008 06:03 PM

never hunted before...
 
Ive never been hunting before, but I've always liked it and wanted to go. I'm 14 now and I guess if that if I'm gonna get into it I might as well do it soon. Aside from the obvious things like a gun, what do I need? I'm interested in deer hunting specifically. How hard would it be for a 14 year old to get a gun, liscence, etc..?

andy da animal 02-21-2008 06:34 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
first off it depends on the state you reside in! so first question what sate are you in? second question, do you know anyone who hunts deer? the gun that you will need depends on what state you are in so i can be more help after i get that answer! then you the type of clothing you will need depends on the state you are in. (do you see the pattern yet;))

any questions ya got feel free to PM me anytime i will do my best to help ya out. since i basically live on this site!

OH YA AND WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris_H 02-21-2008 06:39 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
Theres so much buddy. You don't need a license until you are 16, im pretty sure. Thats how it is in SC. Depending on your size, I would buy/borrow a .243 or a .270. Since your 14, I'd use a gun with a little less recoil unless you are a big kid. Savage arms has great rifles for a great value/cost. Look into it. (Or you could get a bow). Also, get camo that mimics your environment. I wouldn't recommend getting duck camo like Max-4 when your hunting spring turkey. Max-4 is a mixture of marsh grasses, and turkey camo is primarily a woodsie green camo. Where do you live: North, South, West? Buy camo that will keep you comfortable and is convenient. If you hunt the Southeast, its going to be a little warmer, so don't buy a brand like ArticShield, which is made for extreme cold. If I wanted to tell you everything, I'd never stop typing. Look into joining a local hunting club, and talk to other people that hunt. The only way you're going to learn is through experience.

stealthsniper96 02-21-2008 06:43 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
I live in Maryland. And yes I guess I'm a semi-big kid. Just to give you an idea- most kids in my class can bench like 115-125, the most I've ever put up is 150. Whether that helps at all for using guns idk...

andy da animal 02-21-2008 06:48 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
chris is on the right track with ya but as far as the guns are concerned i will have to look up weather you are allowed to use rifles in Maryland, and when there gun season is, and that will help you know on how warm of gear you will need. my money is some HEAVY AND WARM stuff! i will look into it for ya

Chris_H 02-21-2008 06:50 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
Ah. Well, you could handle a .30-06. The only thing I can say for the gun matter is, get out there and shoot different calibers. The .270 is flatter shooting than the .30-06, but is not as powerful as the .30-06. The .243 is a great deer caliber, and has less recoil than both the .270 and .30-06. It just depends on what you'd prefer. There are so many calibers out there, but these are the three most widely used calbiers for deer sized game. You could get a .308, with recoil similar to a .270 and a heavy bullet to battle through brush. A 30-30 is a solidbrush bullet, but isn't great for shots over 200 yards. Again, just get out there and experience it. Go to local gun shops and talk to some veteran hunters that hang there.

stealthsniper96 02-21-2008 06:53 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 


i will look into it for ya

ok thanks, but don't waste to much time, I dont even know if I can do it yet. I figure I might have some trouble convincing my mom to let me take it up, but I would like to have a general idea about stuff before I ask her.

andy da animal 02-21-2008 06:54 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 

ORIGINAL: Chris_H

Ah. Well, you could handle a .30-06. The only thing I can say for the gun matter is, get out there and shoot different calibers. The .270 is flatter shooting than the .30-06, but is not as powerful as the .30-06. The .243 is a great deer caliber, and has less recoil than both the .270 and .30-06. It just depends on what you'd prefer. There are so many calibers out there, but these are the three most widely used calbiers for deer sized game. You could get a .308, with recoil similar to a .270 and a heavy bullet to battle through brush. A 30-30 is a solidbrush bullet, but isn't great for shots over 200 yards. Again, just get out there and experience it. Go to local gun shops and talk to some veteran hunters that hang there.
i totally agree with everything your saying! one small comment though! for a starter to SHOOTING and HUNTING in general probably doesnt need to be shooting over a hundered yards. helps to ensure a good clean kill and to not lower his confidence if he misses, thats why i was thinking a shotgun might be best if Maryland law allows it. it has plenty of pounch but lacks the range of a rifle, but like i said i dont see the need for a beginer shooting over a hundered yards anyway!

Chris_H 02-21-2008 06:55 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 

ORIGINAL: andy da animal

chris is on the right track with ya but as far as the guns are concerned i will have to look up weather you are allowed to use rifles in Maryland, and when there gun season is, and that will help you know on how warm of gear you will need. my money is some HEAVY AND WARM stuff! i will look into it for ya
Right. I'm not sure if there is a gun season in Maryland, if there is one, I'm not sure how long it lasts. Get your state Rules and Regulations Book or call the DNR and check. Like Andy said, you'll want to get something warm for Maryland. You don't know how many people I know that have gone up north and hunted, and have been completely underdressed for that environment. "I brought the clothes that I wear in SC to Alberta, Canada. I froze." :eek:

Chris_H 02-21-2008 07:02 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 

ORIGINAL: andy da animal


ORIGINAL: Chris_H

Ah. Well, you could handle a .30-06. The only thing I can say for the gun matter is, get out there and shoot different calibers. The .270 is flatter shooting than the .30-06, but is not as powerful as the .30-06. The .243 is a great deer caliber, and has less recoil than both the .270 and .30-06. It just depends on what you'd prefer. There are so many calibers out there, but these are the three most widely used calbiers for deer sized game. You could get a .308, with recoil similar to a .270 and a heavy bullet to battle through brush. A 30-30 is a solidbrush bullet, but isn't great for shots over 200 yards. Again, just get out there and experience it. Go to local gun shops and talk to some veteran hunters that hang there.
i totally agree with everything your saying! one small comment though! for a starter to SHOOTING and HUNTING in general probably doesnt need to be shooting over a hundered yards. helps to ensure a good clean kill and to not lower his confidence if he misses, thats why i was thinking a shotgun might be best if Maryland law allows it. it has plenty of pounch but lacks the range of a rifle, but like i said i dont see the need for a beginer shooting over a hundered yards anyway!
Not in all cases. All it takes is practice. I've taken plenty of new hunters to the woods, and more than half of them have taken deer from over 200 yards. I just take them out to the range a few days in a row and let them practice. If a new hunter wanted to start mule deer hunting in the hills of Colorado, he is most likely going to be taking shots at 250+ yards.

Chris_H 02-21-2008 07:11 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
If the new hunter can't shoot past 100 yards effectively, then I won't let him take a shot past that. If he can shoot effectively and consistently past 100, then I give him the full right to make that choice or not. Its all experience. If he decides to shoot at a deer past 100 yards and misses becausehe/she not yet a good shooter or because he/she tried to take a shot on a deer that didn't give him a good angle, then that hunter takes that experience home and into the woods the next time he/she hunts.

andy da animal 02-21-2008 07:12 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 

ORIGINAL: Chris_H


ORIGINAL: andy da animal


ORIGINAL: Chris_H

Ah. Well, you could handle a .30-06. The only thing I can say for the gun matter is, get out there and shoot different calibers. The .270 is flatter shooting than the .30-06, but is not as powerful as the .30-06. The .243 is a great deer caliber, and has less recoil than both the .270 and .30-06. It just depends on what you'd prefer. There are so many calibers out there, but these are the three most widely used calbiers for deer sized game. You could get a .308, with recoil similar to a .270 and a heavy bullet to battle through brush. A 30-30 is a solidbrush bullet, but isn't great for shots over 200 yards. Again, just get out there and experience it. Go to local gun shops and talk to some veteran hunters that hang there.
i totally agree with everything your saying! one small comment though! for a starter to SHOOTING and HUNTING in general probably doesnt need to be shooting over a hundered yards. helps to ensure a good clean kill and to not lower his confidence if he misses, thats why i was thinking a shotgun might be best if Maryland law allows it. it has plenty of pounch but lacks the range of a rifle, but like i said i dont see the need for a beginer shooting over a hundered yards anyway!
Not in all cases. All it takes is practice. I've taken plenty of new hunters to the woods, and more than half of them have taken deer from over 200 yards. I just take them out to the range a few days in a row and let them practice. If a new hunter wanted to start mule deer hunting in the hills of Colorado, he is most likely going to be taking shots at 250+ yards.
i never said it couldnt be done! i just said that there isnt much need. obviously you taught them well enough to take a deer at 200 + yards but in maryland i think that might be a bit unnecisary, and it is always better if they are closer.

andy da animal 02-21-2008 07:15 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 

ORIGINAL: Chris_H

If the new hunter can't shoot past 100 yards effectively, then I won't let him take a shot past that. If he can shoot effectively and consistently past 100, then I give him the full right to make that choice or not. Its all experience. If he decides to shoot at a deer past 100 yards and misses becausehe/she not yet a good shooter or because he/she tried to take a shot on a deer that didn't give him a good angle, then that hunter takes that experience home and into the woods the next time he/she hunts.
i would never disagree with that statement! if they have earned the right to shoot past 100 then ok, however since he doesnt even have a gun little own a mentor to coach him in person at this point in time it would be best if he kept it under a hundered. i hope he goes out and busts targets consistently at 200 yards, but its unlikely.

Chris_H 02-21-2008 07:19 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 

ORIGINAL: andy da animal


ORIGINAL: Chris_H


ORIGINAL: andy da animal


ORIGINAL: Chris_H

Ah. Well, you could handle a .30-06. The only thing I can say for the gun matter is, get out there and shoot different calibers. The .270 is flatter shooting than the .30-06, but is not as powerful as the .30-06. The .243 is a great deer caliber, and has less recoil than both the .270 and .30-06. It just depends on what you'd prefer. There are so many calibers out there, but these are the three most widely used calbiers for deer sized game. You could get a .308, with recoil similar to a .270 and a heavy bullet to battle through brush. A 30-30 is a solidbrush bullet, but isn't great for shots over 200 yards. Again, just get out there and experience it. Go to local gun shops and talk to some veteran hunters that hang there.
i totally agree with everything your saying! one small comment though! for a starter to SHOOTING and HUNTING in general probably doesnt need to be shooting over a hundered yards. helps to ensure a good clean kill and to not lower his confidence if he misses, thats why i was thinking a shotgun might be best if Maryland law allows it. it has plenty of pounch but lacks the range of a rifle, but like i said i dont see the need for a beginer shooting over a hundered yards anyway!
Not in all cases. All it takes is practice. I've taken plenty of new hunters to the woods, and more than half of them have taken deer from over 200 yards. I just take them out to the range a few days in a row and let them practice. If a new hunter wanted to start mule deer hunting in the hills of Colorado, he is most likely going to be taking shots at 250+ yards.
i never said it couldnt be done! i just said that there isnt much need. obviously you taught them well enough to take a deer at 200 + yards but in maryland i think that might be a bit unnecisary, and it is always better if they are closer.
I agree, in Maryland 100+ yard shots might not be necessary. I'm not saying that all new hunters can do this. I've taken kids out that couldn't even hit the target at 75 yards, even after hours on end and over a hundred dollars worth of shells. :D

andy da animal 02-21-2008 07:24 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
been there before as well! it hurts! both them and you! and your wallet! lol[&:]

Chris_H 02-21-2008 07:31 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
Yeah... it sucks! You're bustin my wallet and my time kid!!![:'(]:D

AmateurHunter44857 02-21-2008 07:45 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
Shotgun Regulations
Shotguns may be used to hunt forest and upland game, coyote, fisher, fox, nutria, opossum, raccoon, skunk, woodchuck and migratory game birds, with the restriction that the magazine and chamber must be capable of holding no more than 3 shells total except for deer hunting, where the number of shells is restricted to 8.
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Shotguns larger than 10 gauge may not be used to hunt waterfowl and coots.
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Nontoxic shot larger than No. T (.20 inches in diameter) may not be used to hunt waterfowl and coots.
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The possession or use of lead shotgun ammunition while hunting waterfowl, coots, snipe, and rails is prohibited.
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Deer hunters using shotguns must use a pumpkin ball, rifled slug or sabot. Buckshot may not be used to hunt deer except in Dorchester County, where #1 size buckshot or larger may be used. The use of shotguns smaller than 20 gauge for deer hunting is not permitted.
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A person hunting turkey in the spring season shall be restricted to only using shot sizes #4, #5, or #6. A person hunting turkey in the fall season shall be restricted to only using shot sizes #4, #5, or #6 or a single projectile.
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Rifle Regulations
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It is unlawful to hunt with an automatic firearm capable of firing a series of shots with one continuous pull of the trigger.
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Rifles used for deer hunting must use ammunition developing a muzzle energy of at least 1,200 foot pounds.
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Firearms used for deer hunting may not have an ammunition clip loaded with more than 8 cartridges or bullets. If a clip has the capacity to hold more than 8 rounds, the clip does not have to be physically blocked, but no more than 8 cartridges or bullets may be loaded.
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Rifles may be used to hunt forest game (except turkey during the spring season), upland game (except dove and woodcock), crow, nutria, and woodchuck and certain furbearing species.
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It is only lawful to hunt with ammunition of soft point (expanding) construction. All military, full metal jacketed, incendiary or tracer bullets are prohibited.
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Breech-loading rifles may not be used to hunt deer in Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Calvert, Caroline, Charles, Frederick (in that portion of Frederick County lying south of a line beginning at the Washington/Frederick County line at US Rt. 40 and continuing on Rt. 40 east to Harmony Road, proceeding south on Harmony Road to I-70, following I-70 east through Frederick County), Harford, Howard, Kent, Montgomery, Prince George’s, Queen Anne’s, St. Mary’s and Talbot Counties or in Worcester County as follows: (1) within one mile of any school, (2) within that portion of South Point lying south of a line beginning at the west end of the Sinepuxent Bay Bridge on State Rt. 611, then by and with the south side of Rt. 611 to the junction of the South Point Road going south for a distance of .6 miles to a point opposite the southern boundary of the Ocean City Golf and Yacht Club property on the west side of the road, then by the southern boundary of the Ocean City Golf and Yacht Club to Trappe Creek and (3) within that portion of the land lying south of a line beginning at the mouth of the St. Martin River northwest to the junction with Shingle Landing Road, then by and with the south side of Shingle Landing Road to the junction with State Rt. 113, then by and with the east side of Rt. 113 to the junction with Rt. 589, then by and with the east side of Rt. 589 to the junction with US Rt. 50, then by and with the north side of Rt. 50 to the junction with Assawoman Bay, then by and with the west boundary of Assawoman Bay to the junction with the St. Martin River.
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Muzzleloader Regulations
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Muzzleloading rifles and shotguns may be used to hunt forest game, upland game (shotgun only for dove and woodcock), coyote, fisher, fox, nutria, opossum, raccoon, skunk, woodchuck. Muzzleloader shotguns, with non-toxic shot only, may be used to hunt waterfowl, coots, rails, and snipe. Muzzleloading rifles may not be used to hunt turkey during the spring season.
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Muzzleloaders used for deer hunting must be at least .40 caliber in size and use not less than 60 grains of black powder (or a black powder equivalent) and propel one all-lead, lead alloy or copper soft-nosed or expanding bullet or ball at a single discharge. Sabot loads are legal.
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It is permissible to hunt deer with a muzzleloading rifle or shotgun in all counties. Telescopic sights may be used on a muzzleloader during Firearms or Muzzleloader Seasons statewide.
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Flintlock, percussion cap, and inline ignition muzzleloaders are legal hunting devices. To be considered a muzzleloader, a rifle, shotgun or handgun must be loaded from the muzzle, and a revolver must be loaded from the front of the cylinder.
[/ul]Maryland regulations regarding firearms

AmateurHunter44857 02-21-2008 07:47 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
Hunter Education and Safety Requirement
To hunt or purchase a hunting license in Maryland, state law requires:
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Presentation of a Certificate of Competency in Firearms and Hunting Safety (required for junior licenses), or
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Certification that you held a hunting license issued prior to July 1, 1977, or
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Certification that you hunted on private property prior to July 1, 1977, and were legally exempt from purchasing a hunting license, or
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Certification that you are purchasing a nonresident license and will only hunt waterfowl.
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Exception: Compliance with the Hunter Education and Safety Requirement does not apply to those shooting under a Regulated Shooting Area Hunting License.
Note: RESIDENT Junior Hunters (under 16 years of age) will be entitled to a one-time FREE annual hunting license, bow stamp, and muzzleloader stamp upon successful completion of a Hunter Safety and Education course (bring form provided by course instructor to any DNR Licensing and Registration Service Center).
Trapper Education
Effective August 1, 2007, any person who is trapping or attempting to trap furbearers (beaver, coyote, fisher, gray fox, long-tailed weasel, mink, muskrat, opossum, raccoon, red fox, river otter, and skunk), under the authority of a Furbearer Permit must first obtain a certificate of trapper education from the Department (or a designee of the Department), except that the certificate is not required if the person held a Furbearer Permit during the 2006-07 trapping season (prior to August 1, 2007). Trapper education courses will be held statewide beginning in 2007. Any similar certificate issued by another state is acceptable as complying with the educational requirements if the privileges are reciprocal for Maryland residents.
Full Season Hunting License
Allows you to hunt all legal game birds and mammals in season without the need for additional stamps, except: (1) deer during bow season; (2) deer during muzzleloader season; (3) migratory game birds; and (4) furbearers. A Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp may also be used with these licenses.
Resident Regular Hunting License...$24.50
(Age 16 to 64)
Resident Junior Hunting License...$10.50
(Under 16 years of age, written permission of parent or guardian required)



License info


andy da animal 02-21-2008 08:19 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
ok or you can just copy and paste it! smarty![&:]:eek:

AmateurHunter44857 02-21-2008 08:22 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
Just trying to help:)

andy da animal 02-21-2008 08:38 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
well i started typing the parts that were important for just the DEER part! but i guess you just had to be better than me!:eek:[&:]:D

sachiko 02-22-2008 03:14 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 

ORIGINAL: stealthsniper96


i will look into it for ya

ok thanks, but don't waste to much time, I dont even know if I can do it yet. I figure I might have some trouble convincing my mom to let me take it up, but I would like to have a general idea about stuff before I ask her.
If you think your mom might be nervous about it, why not consider archery and bowhunting first just to get her used to the idea of hunting. Most women are not as afraid of a bow compared to guns.

You can also explain to her that there aren't nearly as many hunters in the woods in bow season.



Retaks 02-22-2008 03:43 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
OK ive been buisy for the alst few days. I live in PA and we have very similar weather. I normally just wear a set of thermals, and pants and shirt, and a jacket for hunting. I do make sure i have enough hunting clothes for sitting in freezing weather but i normall just use it for coyote in the snow and when its cold and rainy. As for a gun a 243 would be plenty for gun for there actually you could get a 20 gauge shotgun combo with both smooth and rifled barrels and then you would be set to hunt anything. I doubt youll get many shots over 150 yards. I will recomend finding someone that hunts and letting them teach you about shooting and gun safety thentaking you on your first few trips into the woods.

AmateurHunter44857 02-22-2008 07:14 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
Don't forget about hunters safety course...

huntnteen 02-23-2008 12:19 PM

RE: never hunted before...
 
i suggest going to your local sporting goods store and talking to one of the workers for specifics. ask about public land opportunities and see what he says. then try talking to an adult who would be willing to take you out or lend you a firearm.


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