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Old 07-09-2003 | 08:43 PM
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Old 07-09-2003 | 09:03 PM
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Default RE: Why always soil test, ever tissue test?

Pat - I' ve never considered a tissue test - the soil samples I take go to Cornell University, I' d assume they could do a tissue test.

Just to play devil' s advocate for a moment - I could see where a tissue test might be beneficial if the Ph & Nutrient levels were perfect - and you wanted to maintain them.

But when you' re building up a plot - the Ph is the key - In my case the Ph is 5.0-6.0 normally with a very high buffer - for my soil to approach 7.0 we are looking at 8 tons/acre Lime - I plant 20 acres - thats 160 tons of lime required. So far I' ve put down less than 10 tons - in and around the better areas where I' m maintaining clover plots - I cannot even consider Alfalfa yet (tried 1 acre anyhow - failed miserably). So my point is I KNOW the plants cannot take in all the nurtients available to them, a soil test lets me know the lime is working, and how fast - I' m not sure how a tissue test can help me? Can you give me an example?

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Old 07-09-2003 | 09:31 PM
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Old 07-09-2003 | 09:53 PM
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Default RE: Why always soil test, ever tissue test?

I think you answered my question Pat - let me make sure..........please do not think I' m being a pain in the Arss but if I can use it I will.

If my soil test says K is " high" but the P & N are lacking - I' m likely to apply 11-52-0 (MAP) + 46-0-0 (Urea) and skip the K (for corn) - band it in at planting.

BUT.....

I do a tissue test and find out K is low in the plant - Do I then sidedress with 0-0-60 K (potash)?

Does the tissue test tell me HOW MUCH K to apply?

Does the test explain why its not being taken up while in the soil? - and how do I know that if I apply it - it will be beneficial to the plant ( or be available to the plant - eg. will the corn will take it in when it wouldn' t take it up in the soil (maybe its bound as a salt KSO2??)?

Ok - one last point- I assume that a crop plant like corn would have different N, P & K Requirements at different points in growth. - Like Wheat, & Oats - The nutrients in the stalk tend to migrate toward the seed as it develops. So I' d assume that tissue tests would vary at different growth stages of the plant. How do you know at what stage to do a tissue test - and do you subnit a full stalk for analysis?

Maybe I should have not used corn as an example - I could see where a more homgeneous plant like clover would be a better example - but still how do you know when to take a tissue sample - or does it not matter?

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I' ve used tissue samples for my grapes and fruit trees. I' ve never used them for perennial plants.

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