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here is my plow. what is the type of this plow? and will this work?
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Evan - That plow should work fine.
It does need new Points and Shares though, you won't be able to plow much before you change them out. There is a lot to learn about plows. More than it seems. The Plow Points should look more like this if they are in good condition.  You should vist your local Farm Supply store - with an information you can find on the plow (model #s, actual moldboard measurements, etc) - they can probably help you find Points & shares. FH |
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It is a moldboard.
Whether it will work for you or not depends on what you are wanting to do. This particular type of plow inverts the soil, and buries any residue you had on the surface. If you aren't trying to manage residue, and erosion isn't a problem, it will work fine. If you are after a clean seedbed, it should work well. If you are trying to maintain surface residue, or erosion is a potential problem, there are other implements out there that might be better suited for the task. |
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Evan,
Depending on your soil, that plow will probably be fine. I would try it as is before you change out the share and shin, unless they are worn in to the frog (the cast part to which they are bolted). But, you need to work on the moldboard, if you want the plow to scour (keep the soil from sticking to it). Sand off as much of the rust as you can without removing too much of the steel. Once you get it to scour, the soil will clean up the rest. Then, when you are finished using it, protect the moldboard until next year with a coat of grease, or a coat of some old paint you have lying around. |
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MM11 just drop in ground and go, dirt will clean moldboard off and you won't be wasting your time. They work in any ground, just make sure you set up right on tractor. North Texas was right on. If any question, check out youtube, tractors plowing. Also be careful, I have seen people almost kill themselves, not being safe. And thats farmers that have been doing it all their lives.
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ken3q,
How much actual experience do you have with moldboard plows? The reason I ask is your "time saving" comment. Is it better to spend 15 minutes cleaning up the moldboard before one begins, or get off the tractor every five minutes for the first half hour to scrape accumulated soil off? Also, although there are many extremely dangerous jobs on the farm, plowing, unless one falls off of the tractor, is notamong them. Although I use moldboard plows less and less as the years have worn on, and there are untold numbers of things I don't know much about, moldboard plows/plowing is not one of them. |
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Keyshunter, have used moldboard all my life too, on farm in PA. never had problem with ground build up on moldboard, just trash build up. Have plowed in shell, sodand clay ground on farm. 1 bottom and 5 bottom semi-mount 18" . I have seen plows fall down because guys didn't support the plow when changing shares ,etc. And tractors flipped when guys plowing, don't know how they did it, they said tractor or something caused the flip and not them. SORRY for the way said that didn't mean to upset anybody. But if MM11 never did it before, just giving some warning so doesn't get hurt. there enuff accidents in farming with people that do have experience.
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ok thanks i will be careful when im doing it;).
here are my tentative plans for my plot. in the spring im going to cut the field, then spray with roundup, then plow, disk, and broadcast buckwheat seed and then lightly disk it in. then in the fall (august-september) disk the buckwheat into the ground as "green fertilizer" and then plant my other seeds. how does this sound? |
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MM11, I wouldn't apply round up if your going to plow, your plot this spring, JMO. We only ever used it in fall and then no-tilled the new crop in spring. Talk to your county extension personal, they will be able to help you, thats what their there for, to help. JMO.
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ORIGINAL: ken3g MM11, I wouldn't apply round up if your going to plow, your plot this spring, JMO. We only ever used it in fall and then no-tilled the new crop in spring. Talk to your county extension personal, they will be able to help you, thats what their there for, to help. JMO. |
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MM11:
I think what he is saying is that you dont have to use the round up if your going to plow the weeds and grasses under. (if im reading correctly) |
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MM11 I think you misunderstood me, I (wouldn't apply round up) if you are going to plow your food plot up.Plowing will turn all your weeds under and give you a fresh seed bed to work with . Thank you rem700man.
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ORIGINAL: ken3g MM11 I think you misunderstood me, I (wouldn't apply round up) if you are going to plow your food plot up.Plowing will turn all your weeds under and give you a fresh seed bed to work with . Thank you rem700man. so dont bother burning or applying round up? just plow, disk, then broadcast, then disk in lightly? how much time do i need to take inbewteen each of these steps? |
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MM11 depends on the moisture of ground, don't want it caking to tractor, plow or disc. And disc seed in gently, you don't want to bury the seed deep. Most grass and legumes like clover, you really don'y need to disc in once broadcasted, watch for rain and try to broadcast day or 2 be for it rains. THis has beenmy experience on the farm whennot using drill . JMO.
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ORIGINAL: ken3g MM11 depends on the moisture of ground, don't want it caking to tractor, plow or disc. And disc seed in gently, you don't want to bury the seed deep. Most grass and legumes like clover, you really don'y need to disc in once broadcasted, watch for rain and try to broadcast day or 2 be for it rains. THis has beenmy experience on the farm whennot using drill . JMO. |
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Make sure you always plow in the same direction. It sounds simple but I've seen many a novice farmer try plowing in both directions and it just doesn't work like that! Your 1st run needs to be straight as possible. Back up and put the tractor's wheels in the furrow, then when you plow this 2nd row the sod will fall into the first furrow you made. A one bottom plow like you have should be fairly easy. Also you should disc first, wait a few days then plow, wait a few days then disc again. By discing first it breaks up the roots and makes a much better seedbed.
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Crazy Idea: Buy whatever you plan on planting and just follow the directions on the bag;)
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ORIGINAL: mountainman08 Make sure you always plow in the same direction. It sounds simple but I've seen many a novice farmer try plowing in both directions and it just doesn't work like that! Your 1st run needs to be straight as possible. Back up and put the tractor's wheels in the furrow, then when you plow this 2nd row the sod will fall into the first furrow you made. A one bottom plow like you have should be fairly easy. Also you should disc first, wait a few days then plow, wait a few days then disc again. By discing first it breaks up the roots and makes a much better seedbed. Actually, farmers have been plowing in both directions since the days when plows were pulled by oxen, horses or mules. Plow out, leaving a middle furrow,one year, andin, leaving two outside furrows, the next. But, for a food plot, I agree that the best bet is to plow one way, throwing the soil uphill if possible,then driving empty back to the starting point. |
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MM11 I would do neither, burn or round up. Keyshunter right on with plowing in two different directions and I agree on food plot plowing.
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Not to hijack here, but what's the advantage/logic in plowing in one direction? I'm a novice for sure, but I've plowed our plot in a circle pattern for quite a few years, and I'm curious as to the reasoning is behind one direction plowing? Thanks guys.
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MGH PA,
I assume that you mean back and forth as I described above and not an actual circle. (Although a circle would be a neat trick, especially as you got close to the center.)Plowing one way is actually much simpler. You make your first pass and then just follow the furrow on succeeding passes. The shape of the field doesn't matter. Even my ex-wife could do it.An advantage to one way plowing is that you do not have to worry about finding the middle furrow when you plow in, or finishing the middle furrow when you plow out.And, if the field is not rectangular, you do not have to drive over and compactthe newly plowed ground when you do your point rows. Also in hilly ground,when you work the soil with a disc,harrow, etc.it always moves down hill. By plowing the soil up hill you are essentially "putting it back". In all honesty, in a food plot, it is not a big deal. But, in large fields, the advantages of one way plowing are so significant that quite early on savvy farmers were using right and left plows, and later rollover plows. In addition to what is mentioned above, itis far less time (and fuel) consuming to turn around at the end of the furrow and start back than to drive across the end of a wide field. |
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ORIGINAL: keyshunter ORIGINAL: mountainman08 Make sure you always plow in the same direction. It sounds simple but I've seen many a novice farmer try plowing in both directions and it just doesn't work like that! Your 1st run needs to be straight as possible. Back up and put the tractor's wheels in the furrow, then when you plow this 2nd row the sod will fall into the first furrow you made. A one bottom plow like you have should be fairly easy. Also you should disc first, wait a few days then plow, wait a few days then disc again. By discing first it breaks up the roots and makes a much better seedbed. Actually, farmers have been plowing in both directions since the days when plows were pulled by oxen, horses or mules. Plow out, leaving a middle furrow,one year, andin, leaving two outside furrows, the next. But, for a food plot, I agree that the best bet is to plow one way, throwing the soil uphill if possible,then driving empty back to the starting point. ken3- so you think i can plant a good plot without burning or spraying roundup? just plowing and disking? |
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ORIGINAL: keyshunter MGH PA, I assume that you mean back and forth as I described above and not an actual circle. (Although a circle would be a neat trick, especially as you got close to the center.)Plowing one way is actually much simpler. You make your first pass and then just follow the furrow on succeeding passes. The shape of the field doesn't matter. Even my ex-wife could do it.An advantage to one way plowing is that you do not have to worry about finding the middle furrow when you plow in, or finishing the middle furrow when you plow out.And, if the field is not rectangular, you do not have to drive over and compactthe newly plowed ground when you do your point rows. Also in hilly ground,when you work the soil with a disc,harrow, etc.it always moves down hill. By plowing the soil up hill you are essentially "putting it back". In all honesty, in a food plot, it is not a big deal. But, in large fields, the advantages of one way plowing are so significant that quite early on savvy farmers were using right and left plows, and later rollover plows. In addition to what is mentioned above, itis far less time (and fuel) consuming to turn around at the end of the furrow and start back than to drive across the end of a wide field. |
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ORIGINAL: MGH_PA ORIGINAL: keyshunter MGH PA, I assume that you mean back and forth as I described above and not an actual circle. (Although a circle would be a neat trick, especially as you got close to the center.)Plowing one way is actually much simpler. You make your first pass and then just follow the furrow on succeeding passes. The shape of the field doesn't matter. Even my ex-wife could do it.An advantage to one way plowing is that you do not have to worry about finding the middle furrow when you plow in, or finishing the middle furrow when you plow out.And, if the field is not rectangular, you do not have to drive over and compactthe newly plowed ground when you do your point rows. Also in hilly ground,when you work the soil with a disc,harrow, etc.it always moves down hill. By plowing the soil up hill you are essentially "putting it back". In all honesty, in a food plot, it is not a big deal. But, in large fields, the advantages of one way plowing are so significant that quite early on savvy farmers were using right and left plows, and later rollover plows. In addition to what is mentioned above, itis far less time (and fuel) consuming to turn around at the end of the furrow and start back than to drive across the end of a wide field. |
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Evan - you are confused because 2 guys are making different points and using similar terminology.
Mountainman08 was simply saying that when you plow up a furrow - next time through - put your right tires in the deadfurrow and roll the next section into it. What Ken3g was saying is that sometimes - its better to come back empty (not plowing) - plow all in the same direction - and then you end up with NO DEADFURROW in the middle of the field. And to plow up hill if you have a choice- because you roll the soil back up hill (where it came from). It makes a huge difference over a few decades. With food plots - its like this - Level - evenly plowed fields are important - I still deal with dead forrows in the middle of my fields from when I first started plowing years ago! Now - I will take my time - and in a small field I'll roll it all off to one side - drive all the way back and start the next row next the the last one.( not plow back on the opposite side of the field). On a couple fields - I leave a roadway (not plowed section) down the field - so that I can come back and avoid deadfurrows. Reading back - Its hard to explain properly - but.............once you plow a feild or two - you know exactly what we are talking about. FH |
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ORIGINAL: MGH_PA ORIGINAL: keyshunter MGH PA, I assume that you mean back and forth as I described above and not an actual circle. (Although a circle would be a neat trick, especially as you got close to the center.)Plowing one way is actually much simpler. You make your first pass and then just follow the furrow on succeeding passes. The shape of the field doesn't matter. Even my ex-wife could do it.An advantage to one way plowing is that you do not have to worry about finding the middle furrow when you plow in, or finishing the middle furrow when you plow out.And, if the field is not rectangular, you do not have to drive over and compactthe newly plowed ground when you do your point rows. Also in hilly ground,when you work the soil with a disc,harrow, etc.it always moves down hill. By plowing the soil up hill you are essentially "putting it back". In all honesty, in a food plot, it is not a big deal. But, in large fields, the advantages of one way plowing are so significant that quite early on savvy farmers were using right and left plows, and later rollover plows. In addition to what is mentioned above, itis far less time (and fuel) consuming to turn around at the end of the furrow and start back than to drive across the end of a wide field. |
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MM11 you can make a good food plot just plowing and discing. Farmers have been doing it this way longer than I have. The cost would be to much and burning would be very unsafe most years, there is more to it than just going out to the field with a match. Like you have to get the townships permission to do it where I live and pay fire company to be there, in case fire gets out of control. And paper work goes with using chemicals, when using a lot. Sorry for confusing you. Check out www.youtube.com, tractors plowing this I think will heip you.
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ORIGINAL: farm hunter Evan - you are confused because 2 guys are making different points and using similar terminology. Mountainman08 was simply saying that when you plow up a furrow - next time through - put your right tires in the deadfurrow and roll the next section into it. What Ken3g was saying is that sometimes - its better to come back empty (not plowing) - plow all in the same direction - and then you end up with NO DEADFURROW in the middle of the field. And to plow up hill if you have a choice- because you roll the soil back up hill (where it came from). It makes a huge difference over a few decades. With food plots - its like this - Level - evenly plowed fields are important - I still deal with dead forrows in the middle of my fields from when I first started plowing years ago! Now - I will take my time - and in a small field I'll roll it all off to one side - drive all the way back and start the next row next the the last one.( not plow back on the opposite side of the field). On a couple fields - I leave a roadway (not plowed section) down the field - so that I can come back and avoid deadfurrows. Reading back - Its hard to explain properly - but.............once you plow a feild or two - you know exactly what we are talking about. FH ken3g i think i might try what your thinking and just plow and disk not worry about roundup or burning. what does anyone else think about this? i understand the whole thing about plowing once then coming back empty. i dont really want to do that becasue i only have a one blade (is that what it called?) plow and it would take a lot of time and diesel to do that. i got another question. im not sure if your saying this or not but could i start on the edge of the field plow once then drive to the other edge of the field and plow the opposite way i just did then go back to the first edge and plow in the same direction? here is a picture of my idea. the brown is the area i wont plow and the green is the area iwill plow on the arrows indicate the direction of the plow. i will be driving bacically in a circle just not plowing on the brown part to the rright and left. i hope this makes sense here is a actual picture of the field maybe it will help http://www.terraserver.com/view.asp?cx=701099&cy=4366419&proj=32616&a mp;mpp=0.75&pic=img&prov=gx19&stac=155 5&ovrl=-1&drwl=-1  |
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MM11, yes you can it like that, will work to, it just gets alittleharder in the middle.
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ORIGINAL: ken3g MM11, yes you can it like that, will work to, it just gets alittleharder in the middle. |
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Sometimes I plow like your picture - and leave the "roadway" in the middle like you show -
This Picture shows it pretty Good. The "roadway" in place of the deadfurrow - where you meet in the middle. We keep the lane mowed - and sometimes spray and plant brassicas or Rye on it in the summer/fall. At the very least - its a shooting lane - or an access lane later in the season.  FH |
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ORIGINAL: farm hunter Sometimes I plow like your picture - and leave the "roadway" in the middle like you show - This Picture shows it pretty Good. The "roadway" in place of the deadfurrow - where you meet in the middle. We keep the lane mowed - and sometimes spray and plant brassicas or Rye on it in the summer/fall. At the very least - its a shooting lane - or an access lane later in the season. FH FH what is that you are pulling with your atv? |
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Thats a cultipacker - andits my son doing the pullling. He was pressing in his sunflower seeds on the edge of our cornplot in this picture.
Here's how it came out - the corn is sprayed with roundup- and we skip the "sunflower" edge.  The Cultipacker presses in small seeds and helps level areas planted. Its an important tool for us.  FH |
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ORIGINAL: farm hunter Thats a cultipacker - andits my son doing the pullling. He was pressing in his sunflower seeds on the edge of our cornplot in this picture. Here's how it came out - the corn is sprayed with roundup- and we skip the "sunflower" edge. The Cultipacker presses in small seeds and helps level areas planted. Its an important tool for us. FH |
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ORIGINAL: mossbergman11/OH do deer like sunflowers>? |
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ORIGINAL: wahoohunter ORIGINAL: mossbergman11/OH do deer like sunflowers>? |
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Moose really love sunflowers. I think deer likesunflowers more for cover than eating.
I grew up on a farm, and we use Roundup - sometimes in the fall and sometimes in the spring. Either way, you need to do it while there is still major plant activity so the chemical will make its way through the root system. I would also suggest that you use an approved/compatablesurfactantwith the Roundup. There are some other tricks, but I won't post them here. If you use Roundup in the spring, be sure to let the field sitten days totwo weeks before you work it (want the chemical to make its way through the entire root system). Also check the weather forcast, as you prefer for it toNOT rain for a day or two after application. Be aware that no tires(or anything else)should touch the vegetation/ground cover after the Roundup has been applied.There arespray wagons where the booms are in front of the tires (not good). You have a good chance of having strips where the kill is less effective due to contact after Roundup was applied. Also be aware that dirt reduces the effectiveness of Roundup (don't sray in dusty conditions). We do NOTallow genetically modified seeds on our land. I stronglysuggest you get ALL the info before you plant gm seeds. |
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Our deer never touch the sunflowers as far as I can tell.
I think that if less food is available - they can become interested in sunflowers at various stages of their growth. From what I see the Birds - really, really like the sunflowers- and I like having them around - It gets my son interested in planting something with tangible results - and thats important to me. It was his plot alone - along with some pumpkins thrown in for October harvest -This was his second year - and I think he learned a good bit. Plots should be fun for kids -and interesting. FH |
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