PLEASE HELP
01-24-2009, 04:28 PM
#4
Nontypical Buck
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RE: PLEASE HELP
This thread is confusing to me. In another thread, 243heartshot claims to be hunting a place with 400 100 acre corn fields. That being the case, you should already have a source for seed corn and be well versed on planting it. What is the real story here?
01-24-2009, 05:04 PM
#5
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bethpage,TN
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RE: PLEASE HELP
It is called multiple properties and multiple states, this year I was wanting to see if i could save some money by buying really cheap corn.
Long Story short, I ended up having to buy my usual human grade corn roundup ready and tons of fertilizer. And I have multiple properties, so i can't just bring stuff cross country. I have one in north Cali, east Tennessee, northern TN, Florida. The one with the corn plots already on it is where I live. I was trying to get cheap stuff for my other properties.
Long Story short, I ended up having to buy my usual human grade corn roundup ready and tons of fertilizer. And I have multiple properties, so i can't just bring stuff cross country. I have one in north Cali, east Tennessee, northern TN, Florida. The one with the corn plots already on it is where I live. I was trying to get cheap stuff for my other properties.
01-25-2009, 05:11 PM
#7
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 608
RE: PLEASE HELP
ORIGINAL: .243Heartshot
It is called multiple properties and multiple states, this year I was wanting to see if i could save some money by buying really cheap corn.
Long Story short, I ended up having to buy my usual human grade corn roundup ready and tons of fertilizer. And I have multiple properties, so i can't just bring stuff cross country. I have one in north Cali, east Tennessee, northern TN, Florida. The one with the corn plots already on it is where I live. I was trying to get cheap stuff for my other properties.
It is called multiple properties and multiple states, this year I was wanting to see if i could save some money by buying really cheap corn.
Long Story short, I ended up having to buy my usual human grade corn roundup ready and tons of fertilizer. And I have multiple properties, so i can't just bring stuff cross country. I have one in north Cali, east Tennessee, northern TN, Florida. The one with the corn plots already on it is where I live. I was trying to get cheap stuff for my other properties.
01-28-2009, 09:51 PM
#8
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2009
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RE: PLEASE HELP
Just my humble oppinion I am against corn for QDM. Corn leaches all the nutrients out of the soil more than comparable crops. Since it is so large of a plant and has very limited winter use, just the kernals. So there is not very much yeild for late season compared to the amount of nutrients extracted from the soil. Further the corn lacks any real benefit in nutrients to the deer. It is only 9% protein and very starchy so converted straight to fat. Deer love it because the fat will get them through the winter and it tastes better than acorns. If you intend to plant corn by all means stay away from the G A as presribed above. You can find traditional dent corn reasonable. Hickory King is one that comes to mind.
You would be much better suited with cow peas or arrow leaf clover in an annual. They will produce their own nitrogen and not leach the soil clean. If you are trying to stay cheap a pound of collards, rape or turnips will go a long way as well. All will not take much from the soil, so a limited amount of fertilizer is required each succesive year compared to corn. If you must plant corn at least grow a legume with it to supply a bit of nitrogen to the corn so it doesn't ruin your ground. A much better method would be to plant a perrenial legume deer plot mix. Considdering you can get 5 years or more out of most it is cheaper in the long run since you use much less fertilizer. There are also annual braisica mixes that are very reasonable. Both are better for the heard than just the fat building corn. If you can offer a high protein food source the deer heard will be less succeptable to illness and more productive.
You would be much better suited with cow peas or arrow leaf clover in an annual. They will produce their own nitrogen and not leach the soil clean. If you are trying to stay cheap a pound of collards, rape or turnips will go a long way as well. All will not take much from the soil, so a limited amount of fertilizer is required each succesive year compared to corn. If you must plant corn at least grow a legume with it to supply a bit of nitrogen to the corn so it doesn't ruin your ground. A much better method would be to plant a perrenial legume deer plot mix. Considdering you can get 5 years or more out of most it is cheaper in the long run since you use much less fertilizer. There are also annual braisica mixes that are very reasonable. Both are better for the heard than just the fat building corn. If you can offer a high protein food source the deer heard will be less succeptable to illness and more productive.
01-29-2009, 04:08 PM
#9
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
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RE: PLEASE HELP
ORIGINAL: Bugflipper
Just my humble oppinion I am against corn for QDM. Corn leaches all the nutrients out of the soil more than comparable crops. Since it is so large of a plant and has very limited winter use, just the kernals. So there is not very much yeild for late season compared to the amount of nutrients extracted from the soil. Further the corn lacks any real benefit in nutrients to the deer. It is only 9% protein and very starchy so converted straight to fat. Deer love it because the fat will get them through the winter and it tastes better than acorns. If you intend to plant corn by all means stay away from the G A as presribed above. You can find traditional dent corn reasonable. Hickory King is one that comes to mind.
You would be much better suited with cow peas or arrow leaf clover in an annual. They will produce their own nitrogen and not leach the soil clean. If you are trying to stay cheap a pound of collards, rape or turnips will go a long way as well. All will not take much from the soil, so a limited amount of fertilizer is required each succesive year compared to corn. If you must plant corn at least grow a legume with it to supply a bit of nitrogen to the corn so it doesn't ruin your ground. A much better method would be to plant a perrenial legume deer plot mix. Considdering you can get 5 years or more out of most it is cheaper in the long run since you use much less fertilizer. There are also annual braisica mixes that are very reasonable. Both are better for the heard than just the fat building corn. If you can offer a high protein food source the deer heard will be less succeptable to illness and more productive.
Just my humble oppinion I am against corn for QDM. Corn leaches all the nutrients out of the soil more than comparable crops. Since it is so large of a plant and has very limited winter use, just the kernals. So there is not very much yeild for late season compared to the amount of nutrients extracted from the soil. Further the corn lacks any real benefit in nutrients to the deer. It is only 9% protein and very starchy so converted straight to fat. Deer love it because the fat will get them through the winter and it tastes better than acorns. If you intend to plant corn by all means stay away from the G A as presribed above. You can find traditional dent corn reasonable. Hickory King is one that comes to mind.
You would be much better suited with cow peas or arrow leaf clover in an annual. They will produce their own nitrogen and not leach the soil clean. If you are trying to stay cheap a pound of collards, rape or turnips will go a long way as well. All will not take much from the soil, so a limited amount of fertilizer is required each succesive year compared to corn. If you must plant corn at least grow a legume with it to supply a bit of nitrogen to the corn so it doesn't ruin your ground. A much better method would be to plant a perrenial legume deer plot mix. Considdering you can get 5 years or more out of most it is cheaper in the long run since you use much less fertilizer. There are also annual braisica mixes that are very reasonable. Both are better for the heard than just the fat building corn. If you can offer a high protein food source the deer heard will be less succeptable to illness and more productive.
01-30-2009, 12:32 PM
#10
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Liberty Center, OH
Posts: 369
RE: PLEASE HELP
I live in Northwest Ohio...Corn is what we do here...all the deer are corn fed, I've been putting out feed corn for the past month and a half and the deer have been devouring it...I'm not sure what the protein % is but I want to say its higher than 6%....that being said...I'm looking at a planting some clover in a small food plot, in fact I'm looking at planting numerous smaller plots instead of one big one...I need advice on what to plant lets say not in deep woods but also not in the open, partial sunlight if you will...got any advice??? PM me or post here I'll try and check back...I'm sure I will, can't escape this site for too long