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ORIGINAL: max the dog

Does are a different story, I let the big mama's pass so I can shoot their veal daughters. That's good eatin.

I used to do the same thing till I found out that those big mama's will run my little bucks off of my food sources, now I take those big mama's and let the little ones feed.

That may be true but big mama's aren't scaring off the big bucks. They attract them. The little does aren't very good breeders like the big does are. I read somewhere a few years ago about a study where for every year a doe is old her fawn mortality drops in half. That means a 2 year old doe looses half the fawns that a 1 year old doe will and a 3 year old does looses even less.

I'm also reminded of a doe I've been seing for the past few years who's been bearing twins season after season. She's an old girl who knows how to keep her fawns alive. Bucks will walk right past her young doe fawns to breed her even if all of them are in season at the same time.

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My frying pan does not discriminate against the age of the doe in it. Bucks have to be out to his ears, Thats why I have'nt shot one in 2 years.

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there are too many does in kentucky last year i just held out for any buck. and i was successful. it was my first deer. but i'm not that descriminative. but does are fair game this coming year.

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Down here in S.C. I'll shoot if its 12" or better.
Up in Wis. I'll shoot if its 20" or better.

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120" minimum. I strictly followed it last year, passing up alot of basket racks and alot of 8 pointers with 15" spreads. it was tough at times, but i felt satisfaction in it. i dont go shooting anything the last day because that's showing no restraint whatsoever. I really don't have a ton of respect for people who do this and say they practice QDM.

slayer

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ORIGINAL: jeg3455

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ORIGINAL: max the dog

Does are a different story, I let the big mama's pass so I can shoot their veal daughters. That's good eatin.

I used to do the same thing till I found out that those big mama's will run my little bucks off of my food sources, now I take those big mama's and let the little ones feed.

I extremely highly doubt taking out your "big mamas" is going to keep the little bucks on the field. i've witnessed the same behavior, and i honestly don't think it matters much. We try to remove mostly older does, as they're the ones that have triplets and twins to keep the population higher. we do take younger does for meat, as they taste great. And for sure bucks are not discrminatory as far as does. They dont have that capacity to think on that level. It's extremely doubtful that an older doe with twin fawns would all be in heat at the same time. And the chance of you being able to tell if the doe is in heat or not is slim to none.

slayer

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And the chance of you being able to tell if the doe is in heat or not is slim to none.

Slayer, I disagree with you about being able to tell when a doe is in heat. When they lift their tail, stick it straight out, flick it constantly, and squat and pee every 2 minutes with their butt 1/2 inch off the ground, they're in heat. Pretty easy to distinguish if you ask me.

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ORIGINAL: max the dog

That may be true but big mama's aren't scaring off the big bucks. They attract them. The little does aren't very good breeders like the big does are. I read somewhere a few years ago about a study where for every year a doe is old her fawn mortality drops in half. That means a 2 year old doe looses half the fawns that a 1 year old doe will and a 3 year old does looses even less.

I'm also reminded of a doe I've been seing for the past few years who's been bearing twins season after season. She's an old girl who knows how to keep her fawns alive. Bucks will walk right past her young doe fawns to breed her even if all of them are in season at the same time.

I don't think it matters what age they are if they are in heat a buck will try and bread them no matter if they are 2,3, or 4. I don't think older doe attract big bucks any more than younger doe they just have to be in heat. I would much rather see young doe and young bucks eating than some old doe running off my younger deer.

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I extremely highly doubt taking out your "big mamas" is going to keep the little bucks on the field. i've witnessed the same behavior, and i honestly don't think it matters much. We try to remove mostly older does, as they're the ones that have triplets and twins to keep the population higher. we do take younger does for meat, as they taste great. And for sure bucks are not discrminatory as far as does. They dont have that capacity to think on that level. It's extremely doubtful that an older doe with twin fawns would all be in heat at the same time. And the chance of you being able to tell if the doe is in heat or not is slim to none.

slayer

I agree with you totally, but I have witnessed it several times if a doe and her yearlings are eating on one of my fields and a small buck comes up she will run them off, grant it it does not happen all the time I have seen it happen several times and when you are in an area where your average rainfall is less than 15 inches competing for food sources can play a big role.

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One that I would at least think about mounting.