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kshunter 03-15-2005 11:34 AM

Real or Fake? (PIC)
 
Here is a picture of a deer that was killed in Kentucky.

The rumor goes like this.

Supposively this story aired on the news recently. Said he was in the woods and seen it coming towards were he was hunting. The deer was already injured and he finished it off. He was not the first person to shoot it but he finished it off so he would claim it.

I do not know anything else about this buck. If it is real, then WOW!! :o

Not trying to cause any controversy, but would love to see if anyone had anymore info on the buck?


Eider 03-15-2005 11:43 AM

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looks real fake!

bearklr 03-15-2005 11:46 AM

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kshunter, this is an easy one.;) It's not hard to tell it's a fake and here's why. If you look at the G6 and G7 on the deers right antler you can see where the person tried to put a shadow of the antler behind it. The problem is that the shadow is the exact same size as the points. This would not even be close to realistic seeing as how the rack is a good 6 foot from the back of the cab (which is where the shadow falls). For example, if you have a spotlight 20' from a wall and then place your hand 6' from the wall the shadow is going to be alot bigger and distorted a little, it's funny how this shadow is clear as a bell and no larger than the points themselves. People that don't know much about lighting, shadow everything they draw, paint, or edit in this manner.

NY Bowhunter 03-15-2005 12:02 PM

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LOL I like the blood dripping effect though. [:-][:-]

bushmaster_5bko 03-15-2005 12:55 PM

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looks fake to me.. i agree with the shadow thing from bearklr.

davidmor 03-15-2005 01:02 PM

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Fake. Look at the left antler where it lines up with the edge of his shirt. You can see where it has a photoshop splice (and a lousy one at that!). The right antler is harder to see, but if you blow it up and look closely you can see the vertical splice there too. That and the shadowing previously posted scream FAKE!!!!

bearklr 03-15-2005 01:51 PM

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Besides, everyone knows this is the original. :D


12 pointer 03-15-2005 02:36 PM

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looks fake to me too

GooseHunter Jr. 03-15-2005 02:37 PM

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Great looking deer, but I would have to say fake.

cardeer 03-15-2005 03:34 PM

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NICE BODY

deersniper101 03-15-2005 04:20 PM

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i dunno looks real if u just glance at it but i am with beaklr

El Jeffe 03-15-2005 04:39 PM

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Fake due to the fact it would have been all over the forums long ago

buckhunter14 03-16-2005 04:40 AM

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Even if some antler was added on it was a nice buck to being with I'm sure...

moosehornhunter 03-16-2005 08:56 AM

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not to go against everyone, but I say it looks like the real thing to me. And from the looks of it, I don't see why it wouldnt be real. First...I just don't see the shadow problem, and second, i don't see any evidence of doctoring, contrary to what some feel they see. In fact, although its a heck of a buck to say the least, its not of threatening size. I mean, it looks to me to be about a 200" gross 190" net class buck. Not a dime a dozen but not uncommon either.

Jeep4x4 03-16-2005 10:16 AM

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As fake as the rompola buck.

ewolf 03-16-2005 02:19 PM

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200 gross? way bigger than that I'm thinking it would be about 238 3/8. Just a guess tho. So, what do you think is the gross score?

Double Creek 03-16-2005 02:50 PM

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Ben circling for a while now, some say TX, I've heard MS and KY. Not sure if it's fake or not

i shoot stuff 03-16-2005 04:11 PM

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OMG I CANT NOT TAKE THIS CRAP ANYMORE. I KNOW I POSTED A PICTURE OF A DEER AND ASKING IF IT WAS FAKE BUT DAMN! ITS LIKE U GUYS SEE A DEER BIGGER THAN YOURS SO THE FIRST WORD OUT OF YOUR MOUTH IS FAKE. AND BEARKLR ARE U LIKE PRO TO PHOTOSHOP CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE U NO EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. AND ONE THING IF THAT DEER IS FAKE WERE DID THE ANTLERS COME FROM ARE THEY FAKE? NO THERE FROM THAT DEER. IF ALL U DO IS SIT AT HOME AND MAKE FAKE PICTURES OF DEER I GOT 3 WORDS FOR U. GET A LIFE! AND MY PERSONAL OPINION IS ITS REAL.

allcamo 03-16-2005 04:27 PM

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O it's for real all right, I was the first one to shoot it that day. Seems my ultra, win, short, supper short, weatherby, BMG just wasn't enough to finish it of. Then this guy with a .17 downs it with one shot. :D Sorry guys, this was getting a little too intense, thought I would lighten it up a little. I say fake for all of the above reasons, but if it's real, congrats!:)

Outdoor 03-16-2005 05:18 PM

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Come on fellows...common sense would tell you it would be on at least a front page of "one" of the deer hunting magizines.

bigcountry25 03-16-2005 08:25 PM

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Looks fake to me.

moosehornhunter 03-17-2005 07:24 AM

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Come on people....it's a nice buck but not that exceptional. As far as the deer goes, it's ungutted, and looks to be 160-170lbs. live weight tops! This buck would only dress at 140-155lbs tops. Thats why the horns give an initial appearance of being so huge. Look at the 5 gallon buckets in the bed of the truck for scale. Also, in that truck, the tailgate height is only 18". Finaly, that kid looks to be about 20 years old, and thin as hell; maybe 140lbs. His cap has a T on it, probably Texas. Short hair on the deer also leads me to believe southern deer.
As far as the horns go, here is a generous, and I do mean generous guess: Inside spread: 25"
Mass: 32" ( thin horns so I gave him 4" per wrap X 8 GENEROUS)
Left Right
Beams 28" 28"
G1 5" 6"
G2 7" 8"
G3 13" 12"
G4 14" 12"
G5 6" 6"
G6 3" 3"

Totals 76" 75" 151"
mass 32"
spread 25"

GROSS 208"
Now subtract the several junk points and side to side differences and what you are left with is a gorgeous mid 190's buck. But certainly NOT one worth faking. Several deer are killed EACH YEAR of this caliber. By no means is this an exceptional buck, espescialy on a national level.

Whoever shot it has one heck of a mount though!!!!

rick_reno 03-17-2005 07:41 AM

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Looks fake.

moosehornhunter 03-17-2005 08:43 AM

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KSHUNTER......Where did you get the picture from?

moosehornhunter 03-17-2005 08:46 AM

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KSHUNTER.....you also seem to "know" quite a bit about the "rumors". What news did it air on? who is the hunter? Seems to me like a quick call to the news reporting agency could clear things up here.....give it up boy....

kshunter 03-17-2005 09:48 AM

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It was posted last fall on my site. I thought i'd bring it up here to see if anyone had any additional info on it, since what I posted is all I know. If I remember right, the rumor originally came from this site.

moosehornhunter 03-17-2005 09:57 AM

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Well it's not a rumor. It is in fact a real deer that was shot and killed in kentucky this past season. The hunter who shot the deer did not find it. Another hunter came across the dead deer and took it. it is now mounted and being used in shows in the Kentucky area. A new cape needed to be used in the mount due to the decaying condition of the deer. I got all of this information straight from the Kentucky Division of Fish and Wildlife. So I guess we can just end this thread with one word...REAL REAL REAL REAL REAL REAL REAL REAL REAL REAL.

bearklr 03-17-2005 10:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: i shoot stuff

OMG I CANT NOT TAKE THIS CRAP ANYMORE. I KNOW I POSTED A PICTURE OF A DEER AND ASKING IF IT WAS FAKE BUT DAMN! ITS LIKE U GUYS SEE A DEER BIGGER THAN YOURS SO THE FIRST WORD OUT OF YOUR MOUTH IS FAKE. AND BEARKLR ARE U LIKE PRO TO PHOTOSHOP CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE U NO EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. AND ONE THING IF THAT DEER IS FAKE WERE DID THE ANTLERS COME FROM ARE THEY FAKE? NO THERE FROM THAT DEER. IF ALL U DO IS SIT AT HOME AND MAKE FAKE PICTURES OF DEER I GOT 3 WORDS FOR U. GET A LIFE! AND MY PERSONAL OPINION IS ITS REAL.

Man, you need to stop getting your panties in a bunch. When someone posts a pic asking for an opinion then we give it. If you don't like what we have to say than post an oposing opinion not sit there and badmouth everyone elses in capital letters as if that REALLY REALLY REALLY gets you point accross.[:'(] Sounds to me like you're some 15 year old who has no concept of making a fake picture. What the heck do you mean "where did the horns come from"? if this is a fake (key word if after reading mooshorns post) then they would of come from photoshop, seeing as how that is the entire purpose of the software. And as far as being a professional at photoshop, no I didn't write the software but while you're at school I work as a systems analyst using this software to develop images for websites on a daily basis. Also when I questioned the shadow it was based on the opinion of my brother-in-law who by the way went to art school in philadelphia and is a professional photographer (just in case you wanted to know why he's allowed to give an OPINION). so before you go attacking everyone elses opinion telling them to "get a life" try making one of your own based on your background (if you have any) rather than pulling invalid statements from the air and pasing them off as fact. Moosehorn for example did research and backed up his claims so I have no problem beleiving it's a real pick, I was just asked to give my opinion which I did at that point in time (before any FACTS were brought into the discussion. That's why they are called opinions because they are just feelings that can be changed when true facts are brought to light.

mixerdriverm 03-18-2005 10:37 AM

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Ok here is my two cents on it. I dont know if the deer is real or fake. Personally I dont care. It is a good looking deer. I dont see the strange shadows or anything else. Therefor I am led to believe it is real. However after doing some research just out of curosity on the Kentucky DNR page I see no traces of the deer or nothing about it. I did learn that Kentucky does have some very nice deer. Now if I shot that deer you can bet that it would be posted on the Kentucky DNR site under the ones that didnt get away. To have your picture featured on "The One That Didn't Get Away" page, send to [email protected] SO to clear it all up simply send the pic to the one that didnt get away and the Kentucky DNR will post it only if it is real and I am sure they will have some sort of proof. If I am just guessing they will want to see the Deer because it is a massive deer.


1865 03-18-2005 11:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: i shoot stuff

OMG I CANT NOT TAKE THIS CRAP ANYMORE. I KNOW I POSTED A PICTURE OF A DEER AND ASKING IF IT WAS FAKE BUT DAMN! ITS LIKE U GUYS SEE A DEER BIGGER THAN YOURS SO THE FIRST WORD OUT OF YOUR MOUTH IS FAKE. AND BEARKLR ARE U LIKE PRO TO PHOTOSHOP CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE U NO EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. AND ONE THING IF THAT DEER IS FAKE WERE DID THE ANTLERS COME FROM ARE THEY FAKE? NO THERE FROM THAT DEER. IF ALL U DO IS SIT AT HOME AND MAKE FAKE PICTURES OF DEER I GOT 3 WORDS FOR U. GET A LIFE! AND MY PERSONAL OPINION IS ITS REAL.
It is a fake. And yes I am a professional. I work in website resources and use Photoshop for hours every day. Take a deep breath, turn off the caps lock and relax.

Red Hawk 03-18-2005 11:49 AM

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looks fake but its a nice buck though regardless

aborquez18 03-18-2005 03:22 PM

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It kinda looks real to me but the blood dripping from its nose kinda gives it away.

moosehornhunter 03-18-2005 03:53 PM

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Like i said before, It is definately a real deer. I suggest all the naysayers refer to my previous posts.

moosehornhunter 03-18-2005 03:53 PM

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And the State of Kentucky does acnowledge the deer fyi

BowHuntingFool 03-20-2005 10:48 AM

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And the State of Kentucky does acnowledge the deer fyi
Where? Looks like a fake to me. I'm no expert but the shadows was the first thing I noticed as well!

moosehornhunter 03-22-2005 04:40 PM

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OK everyone.....let the debate rage on. I must apologize to you all. After getting involved in this post, i contacted the Kentucky DFW and asked if an exceptionaly lare deer had been killed and found by somebody else in the last season. The spokesperson said that indeed a humongous deer had been shot and not recovered and later found by another hunter. The only thing is, the picture in this post isn't it. i just recieved pictures in the mail as well as a newspaper article about the big buck from kentucky. The story goes like this. A deer that was nicknamed "Chocolate"(due to his extra dark coat) was shot by a hunter, Doug Lindell, on October 17th in the woods near Sulfer Creek in Glenmary. The hunter failed to recover the deer after two solid days of searching. Four weeks later, Lindell went hunting with his buddy, Chris Crawford. Crawford found the deer by accident when he was walking back to his truck. Lindell had no more buck tags, so Crawford tagged the deer. The deer has not yet been scored as of 11-26, however two people attempted to score it. One came up with a score of 257, the other 299. Quite a difference, so it should be interesting to see. This buck is an absolute MONSTER!!! I have a pic of it in my hand, however, i can't get it on here. It has 32 scoreable points, double drop tines, about 5 browtines on each side, 4 additional smaller drop tines, and wicked mass. it looks to me like a mainframe 12 pointer with TONS of junk.
In summation, I have no clue about the pic at the begginning of this thread. sorry for any confusion i may have caused.

moosehornhunter 03-22-2005 04:58 PM

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click on this link to see a pic of the deer and scoresheet http://www.bluegrassbigbucks.com/Ind...%252520Gallery

Look at the grin on that guys face!!!!!

berettababe 03-22-2005 07:16 PM

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if i killed a deer like that i would not be holding it by the base of the horns! i'd have my hands stretched around that spread!.. it has to be fake!

bearklr 03-23-2005 06:49 AM

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Yeah, I would say that's a different deer LOL:D:D. Thanks for coming back to this thread and clarifying with proof. Alot of people wouldn't have admitted to being a little off in a previous post but you took the time to research it and admitted that you had this pick mixed up with another deer. Now that there is no evidence once again my opinion is still on fake without any real facts to say otherwise.:D;)

KamiahKid 03-23-2005 08:16 AM

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Looks like a fake to me.


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