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North Texan 02-06-2005 10:05 PM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 

Best answer I have read. I know of some very poor people, and none of them poach. On the other hand, most poachers today DO NOT poach to feed their families. They do it because they don't follow the laws, they want to hunt whereever they want without permission, and many are just after a rack.

poaching is wrong regardless.....they make seasons for a reason....if there is no season in , then go fishing...............raise chickens/rabbits.....there is NO excuse for poaching, y'all can sit there and justify it all you want, but like someone else said , it's just a copout,an excuse, a poor one at that......there is no way i'd fill my freezer with meat that i had taken illegally, no way.......i'd eat earthworms first.......to sit there and try to rationalize this is unreal.....the ones that agree with me arent high and mighty at all, we just have respect for the game that we harvest and the laws.........like i said, there's always fishing.........yeah, you might have to drive or walk a ways to get to that water, but if i needed to feed my family , i would get there one way or another.....
More good answers. I think if you start justifying poaching as o.k., then you might as well justify selling drugs to supplement income as well. I can't think of any reason ANYBODY can't live off chickens and red beans.


its not going to hurt to kill 1-2 deer
Its not the one or two deer that count, its the aggregate. If poverty justifies poaching, then everyone that considers themselves poor will use it as an excuse to poach. Its hard to bend the laws for one person, then not for the other. What $ amount is the shut-off where you say no more? What about the person that makes $1 over the limit? $2? Where do you draw the line?

duece2 02-07-2005 03:57 PM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 
Sorry my first post on this topic wasn't on topic.. I'm just sick of everyone dealing with the tsunami and not worrying about the people we have hear that are dealing with the same consequences.. but thats another subject.
So what makes it right to live off of chickens and cows? Theres not a season for them yet we can kill them and eat them any time we want? Sorry but i def. Disagree with what you people are saying. Why is it ok to go and kill and animal that you have raised and then kill it. People go to jail all the time for shooting cats and dogs but yet its alright to go kill another pet of yours. Wait its different right? Your just trying to earn some money so you can have a good life. Well the people who are killing and extra deer or twos just trying to live. Dont give me none of that BS that the cows are made to be killed and get food off of. Whats the deer here for? The same reason. So are you telling me if I build a 20 ft fence over a 100 acre plot i'm entitled to kill the deer that I put in them cause they are mine? Works both ways before long people are going to be have deer farms every half mile so they just have to walk out and bam shoot ya a deer and have dinner.
Tell me if I'm way off topic but i dont think i am. Its just a matter of opinions..

North Texan 02-07-2005 04:12 PM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 

Why is it ok to go and kill and animal that you have raised and then kill it.
Because you own them.


People go to jail all the time for shooting cats and dogs but yet its alright to go kill another pet of yours.
I don't really consider cows and chickens pets. Also, haven't seen that many people with any good cat recipes.


So are you telling me if I build a 20 ft fence over a 100 acre plot i'm entitled to kill the deer that I put in them cause they are mine?
Exactly. The state typically owns the wildlife. You buy a deer and put him in a pen, he's yours. Shoot him if you want cause you own him.

duece2 02-07-2005 04:35 PM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 
Alright, so if i call my son when i have one its perfectly legal? Cause i own them.. thats all bs and your killing them for the same reason. FOR FOOD.. i could see if ur killing them to make money... your not you killing them to feed ur hungy self and ur kids. So all in all we have different opinions. I would never poach a deer, its not who i am.. but trust me.. if the going got tuff i think i would consider it.. just depends how bad i got..
but for real.. .hows it killing a chicken and a cow different? i think i'd get in trouble if i did have a fence up and was killing deer. you know how them damn wildlife officers are.. specially the ones in ohio

North Texan 02-07-2005 04:57 PM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 
My point is that it is legal to kill cows and chickens for food. Shooting a deer for food is o.k., too. Just don't break the law doing it (i.e. poaching).

T/C fan! 02-08-2005 12:11 AM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 
I told myself to stay out of this one, but I can't stand it anymore. I can agree with both sides of this debate on certain subjects, but for those of you that say "you'd never poach", just how many of you have been in the situation where you had to make a decision whether to provide for your families by killing a deer out of season or break the law? Its just a guess, but I'd say very few, if any. If you've not been in that situation, you can't possibly give a true answer. I know I can't. And for those of you that compared poaching to selling drugs? If you're selling drugs, you're ruining someone's life, but I don't ever recall a deer being poached having the same effect. For the record, I'm a firm believer in prosecuting poachers that are doing it just for the racks etc, but if it comes down to my family starving or me taking a deer out of season, you can bet I'll do my duty, as a provider, to do what I can to keep food on the table. just my .02

ductman 02-08-2005 01:45 AM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 
very well said T/C fan

kevin1 02-08-2005 04:51 AM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 

So are you telling me if I build a 20 ft fence over a 100 acre plot i'm entitled to kill the deer that I put in them cause they are mine?

Exactly. The state typically owns the wildlife. You buy a deer and put him in a pen, he's yours. Shoot him if you want cause you own him.
Not always true Tex ,
here it's illegal to hunt them whether you own them or not if it isn't deer season . The Bellar Lacey Act violations case held here recently is a good example , the guy thought that he could sell penned killing anytime he wanted because he "owned" the deer . He can't even renew his deer breeding license anymore because he copped to game violations over this very subject . Last I looked his herd was for sale .

mdbllung 02-08-2005 08:00 AM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 
is poaching ok?no but true survival no question about it.In 1995 I had my right leg crushed under a backhoe.The comp system destroyed me financially.No govt assistance because even though I couldnt work I still had a job in their wacked eyes.My employers ins. company would cancel my benifits every 4-5 months and I would have to take them to court to get them reinstated.Did I poach?No I got by 3 years of only being paid for 1year and 9 months by selling everything possible,friends giving me fish,veggies and meat.Isaw family members get govt. assistance when they were healthy but lazy.To those in the get a job crowd,if I did then I would have had to pay back all the medical they covered.I tried the system and it just doesnt work.At the time I had wife and 1 daughter.My first post sorry for misspellings and going onjust wanted to share my exp. I see everyones sides and really enjoy you guys and gals insights.Last note the accident happened 6 days before the start of 95 bow season.

JagMagMan 02-08-2005 08:41 AM

RE: Is Poaching Okay???
 
Hey Duece,
Farm animals are not, and never were considered pets! Yes, there are a few people that have farm animals as pets, but most fam animals are raised for meat, eggs, or fur! There is a huge difference between eating a farm animal and the family pet!
Also, if you had land, with a 20ft. fence around it, I'm sure no one would consider you to be poor enough to justify poaching! BTW, here in Texas, you can have a 30ft. high fence if you want to, but you still can't shoot the Whitetail deer, or other native game species out of season!
Also, you people that are going on about poaching being justifyable, you can keep saying it over and over, but it still will not make it right! Poaching is stealing, and if you poach you will steal other things too!
If you can't kill enough game animals "in season," enough other non-game animals, and fish, the rest of the year to feed your family, then you probably need to become a vegetarian, because your going to starve anyway!

Sorry JagMagMan, but there will be NO name calling or personal acusations in here. Have your debate, that is fine.


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