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onebullet 12-20-2004 10:32 AM

chi vang attorneys will use self defense and
 
according to kare11 news vangs attorneys will use self-defense and temporary insanity as defence in the shooting of 8 people in wisconsin- killing 6 of them
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anyone who has followed this knows its pretty hard to claim self-defense when ya shoot em in the back four times and there is one gun at the crime scene
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f_ _ _ing lawyers [:@][:'(][>:]
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you know what you call a busload of lawyers going over a cliff?????

a good start ;)

Charlie P 12-20-2004 11:48 AM

RE: chi vang attorneys will use self defense and
 
OB,If that's their defense strategy he's done.

quiksilver 12-20-2004 12:05 PM

RE: chi vang attorneys will use self defense and
 
"Self defense" is afforded to anyone who is threatened with any force that a reasonable person would conclude to be "deadly." That defense is available regardless where the entry/exit wounds are located. (back, front, it doesn't matter)

Evidence will undoubtedly show that Chi Vang's victims did possess knives, ammunition, and probably firearms. I have not heard any credible report that the decedents didn't have any type of firearms. Further, that crime scene was tampered with by the property owners before law enforcement officials arrived.

I've heard that Chi was threatened by the group, and was fired upon while walking away. While this story may be incredible, as well, I dont think it's appropriate to bash the legal system for giving Chi Vang the ability to exercise his constitutional rights to defend his case.

Situations like that usually don't happen unilaterally. I mean, there is usually some causation attributable to more than one party.

I believe that Chi Vang DID, in fact, feel threatened to a degree. Normal people just don't go on a killing spree without provocation. I also believe that a court will find Mr. Vang's "self-defense" to be excessive, and therefore, he will be barred from raising self-defense as a defense.

Jluke04 12-20-2004 12:19 PM

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I just hope he gets whats coming to him

PikeTipper 12-20-2004 12:29 PM

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The last I heard there was only 1 gun between all of the people that were shot.

Charlie P 12-20-2004 01:06 PM

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Further, that crime scene was tampered with by the property owners before law enforcement officials arrived
You have any proof of that?

BowHuntingFool 12-20-2004 02:01 PM

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The last I heard there was only 1 gun between all of the people that were shot.
......in the back!

Charlie P 12-20-2004 02:05 PM

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Normal people just don't go on a killing spree without provocation
Also don't have the police called their houses and threaten to shoot their wives.

stubblejumper 12-20-2004 02:09 PM

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Further, that crime scene was tampered with by the property owners before law enforcement officials arrived.

I've heard that Chi was threatened by the group, and was fired upon while walking away.
You have heard a lot.Have you heard any proof to back up any of it?What do you expect someone accused of several murders to say?Do you belive for a minute that he wouldn't lie?

BowHuntingFool 12-20-2004 02:21 PM

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...and an arrest warrant for not paying a trespassing fine in 2002![:'(]


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