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metro 12-11-2004 10:39 PM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 
Wow, I just crunched the numbers for my .30-.30 and it looks like it beats out the .243 at 200 yards too! Maybe you oughta hand that .243 down to your daughter.

Metro

zrexpilot 12-12-2004 08:31 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

ORIGINAL: metro

Wow, I just crunched the numbers for my .30-.30 and it looks like it beats out the .243 at 200 yards too! Maybe you oughta hand that .243 down to your daughter.

Metro
Buwahahahahahahaha ! theres a sucka born everyday. If that alone doesnt tell you TKO # are a load of crap then nothing will enlighten you.

zrexpilot 12-12-2004 08:46 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

ORIGINAL: metro

Wow, I just crunched the numbers for my .30-.30 and it looks like it beats out the .243 at 200 yards too! Maybe you oughta hand that .243 down to your daughter.

Metro
Using federal 100 gr sierras' BT

The.243's velocity at 400yds is the same as the .30-30's at the muzzle . The .243 energy at 500yds is the same as the 30-30's at 200 yds.
ya I'd say your TKO#'s are bunk.

Colin3 12-12-2004 09:27 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

Double the weight of a bullet and it's energy doubles, double its velocity and its energy quadruples.
I am confused are you debating the importance of velocity vs. weight or velocity vs. energy?

zrexpilot 12-12-2004 09:44 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

ORIGINAL: Colin3


Double the weight of a bullet and it's energy doubles, double its velocity and its energy quadruples.
I am confused are you debating the importance of velocity vs. weight or velocity vs. energy?
Neither really. just showing that velocity is more of the deciding factor in energy, not bullet weight. But like I said before energy isnt what kills.
I believe that velocity has more to do with killing than energy does. Thats what this debate was about. I wanted people to try and prove to me that energy is what kills. There's a lot of people that buy into the energy myth. Which is bunk.
Theres no such thing as knock down power. The law of physics prove it. With an action theres and opposite and equal reaction. So to knock something down with power it would require the shootoer to be knocked backwards with equall force. Issac Newton proved this long ago.

metro 12-12-2004 10:03 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 
Like I said, the TKO rating comes from big game hunters that take down dangerous game, not me. I'm sure the .243 does just fine on a deer when placed right but when the chips are down and a dangerous animal is within a hundred yards and could possibly charge I'd rather have the bigger heavier round. I did'nt mean to take this topic off to big, dangerous African game it just came up when reading about the TKO and I thought the formula was interesting.

Metro

onebullet 12-12-2004 11:30 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

ORIGINAL: zrexpilot

now it's effort and skill huh?
Well my little grasshopper, I took two doe this year, from the ground with a bow (no blind) No high fences.
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how much velocity that bow got??[8D]

zrexpilot 12-12-2004 11:35 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

ORIGINAL: onebullet

how much velocity that bow got??[8D]
more than it does in energy, 50 lbs energy and 270 fps velocity. do you think the energy pushed it way through ? or do you think its velocity punched its way through ? Velocity baby! velocity. And the wound channel killed it not the energy. ha ha.

onebullet 12-12-2004 11:44 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 
thats it zrex-you seem to have all the answers but wont listen to anyone else-it seems you have much to say about nothing-later i think i i will just block you from now on- because there is no debating you- are you bi-polar or something? you have talked in circles enough for me ---computer---block stop zrex--smell ya later

killer243 12-12-2004 11:46 AM

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 
BROWNING.308- wow you make it sound that your 308 is the best gun out their. heck it isn't even the best non magnium 30 caliber rifle. but if you think it is so great that is good for you.

however i never said that the 243 is the best either.


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