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i was with my two friends hunting and they were up the hill from me. My one friend shot the deer first and broke one leg about off with just a little meat hanging and the bullet also tore the other leg up pretty good. Well it was down but they ran up there and it got up...well the same friend shot it again right below the spine and told the other one not to shoot because it was about to go down from those but he shot and it got it in the but from the side and it still went and fell over. i think the one that shot it first should get all credit since he put the shot on him that took him down and the chest shot and he was about to go down.

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hmm well i don't think any credit is due here. You boys need to spend some time on the range i think before you try hunting again.

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not we boys i didnt shoot. the deer was running at about 100yards when he first got hit in the legs

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You can't use the deer was running at 100 yards as an excuse to make a bad shot. Maybe that shot shouldn't have been taken? But i guess we all have to learn somehow.

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I would of been mad if my friend was shooting my deer . Well it is the kid who hit it first . Good luck.

later , hunter cameron

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thanks for answering the question.
Good luck out there

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The first guy gets the drumsticks. The second fella gets the rest. And they both get awards for POOR MARKSMANSHIP!

Uncle Matt (in IL)

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I think those boys should split the meat--if there is any left (grin). as far as credit, if those two are hunting partners--can't they just split the "bragging rights"--sounds like there was little to brag about anyway. A quick death for the deer should be paramount. If it was something for the wall then the first one to hit a vital area should probably get the head. Hopefully, if hunting together then cooperation should not be a concern--if there is--might look for new partners.
hb

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well it was going down so the first one wasent going ot shoot again but the other hit the but. The other two shots would of did the job just fine. It was a nice deer.

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Mix in a little target practice before hunting...it gives us a bad name when we wound deer like that!

Deer belongs to the first shooter!

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The law says that whoever delivered the lethal shot ,the deer is his.thats the Pa. law where I'm from.The tag you put on the tag says kill tag

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well the one who shot it first wants to mount it and all since he put it down and it didnt get up until they got close and his other shot just missed the spine. the others just hit the butt from the side.

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Obviously they are young because a real man,or should I say a real friend would just concede and let the fella that hit it in the legs have it but sounds like some inexperienced,immaturity going on.

I once shot a 10 point that would have scored around 155-160.It had just been shot right in the very front of the brisket area from a broadside hit with a 308.A young fella of 13 years old shot at it and I was just a couple hundred yards away over a small ridge.Shot scared the poop outta me for I did not know he was over there.Public land in Virginia.

Anyway the deer came through some mountain laurel and stopped and looked back behind him when I put him down in his tracks.I approached the deer and saw the front grazing wound,hardly any blood loss at all.I figured someone may come along so I waited before tagging and dressing and it was only a few short minutes before this boy and his grandpop showed up.

They were not tracking blood but looking for it.They only found a couple spots and a lot of hair where it was at when he shot.Then they heard me shoot and headed that way.

I told the boy the deer was his,he drew first blood.I even squeaked out a white lie and told the boy I thought the buck was staggering a bit although it was not.The boys grandpop knew better and winked at me.I offered to help with the drag and they politely refused the offer.This was the boys first deer and would be his first field dressing job as well so I left.

Figured he was nervous enough.I was 19 when this happened and it took another 15 years before I got another 160 buck but hey,he drew first blood...Sorry to hijack your thread.

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I'm going with E. Owens and cardeer on this one.

That's how we handle it in Delaware and anywhere else I've ever heard.

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well which shot would you consider the killing shot then.

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Shooting a running buck at 100 yards is not a good shot in the first place.

He should be standing still for a 100 yard shot.

So try that next time OK.

A running 100 yard shot gives hunters a bad name.

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I respectfully disagree, I think it all depends on the terrain and how skilled and confident the shooter is--I've probably killed 25-30 bucks and another dozen does in my life and at least probably 8-10 were running at distances of 50-200+ yds. I did not feel that it was a low percentage shot at the time and still don't. In fact, if I have to shoot offhand--I would 10x rather the target be moving than holding still. the only deer I've missed were holding still and I was moving uncontrollably "with the buck fever"...I'm not saying that any of this discussion pertains to this particular incident--obviously the shots talked about in this thread were not in the 10 ring but it sounds like these hunters are young and hopefully will get better--I believe that anyone who started hunting at a young age has probably had a few learning experiences at least the animal did not get away.
Shuler--sounds like the first guy is probably the one who got the deer--you said his second shot was below the spine--did he hit the vitals? or just hit that "no man's land" between the vitals and the spine?--the guy that shot the deer in the @ss--did he hit anything else (back bone?) surely these two can figure it out w/o having to get their lawyers involved (grin) good luck--be careful out there
hb

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the one in the chest was right below the spine barely missing, while the but shot didnt hit anything and didnt even go all the way threw. The first one didnt shoot again because the deers right leg was hanging on by fur and the other was about half on.

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I think in this case the first guy gets the deer. These wounds would been have fatal if the deer wasn,t pushed. In fact if i were the first guy I would tear that hanging leg off and beat my so called buddy upside the head with it. He shouldn,t have shot at it at all.

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thanks motown and hillbilly for some good answers. good luck with the hunting.

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I think the first guy should get the deer. Neither should get credit for a bad shot. my dad always told me.. make the first shot count.. in the legs doesn't count to hard.

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Not to keep kicking the horse but I wouldn't want any credit for Swiss cheezing the deer. I want credit when I make a good clean kill.

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im sure you would if it was big.

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I agree with that.

And the running shot might be ok for a seasoned hunter and

has a shot enaugh to make a running shot.

But not a beginer they haven't shot enaugh to make a 100 yard running shot.

I have shot a lot in my 45 years and I am not sure if I would try to shot at one

Running at 100 yards.

But if you are sure of the shot and have shot enaugh to be a good shot I gues it would be ok.

well theres my 2 cents.

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well, bad shots happen. but i woudl say the guy who made the first shot to the vitals gets the deer. based on what i could interpret from your choppy writing, i would have to say the guy that shot the deer below the spine made the first lethal shot. sure, the deer may die of two broken legs, but thats not a killing shot.

Ill use this example(just a figment of my imagination): John shoots at a monster buck. he grazes the belly. he makes it bleed, but it isn't lethal. Then the deer runs past joe, who puts one in the boiler room. Why should John get the deer if he hit the thing first? joe put the thing down. Thats my reasoning behind it. if you're the first hunter to shoot it in a killing area, the deer's yours. leg wounds and stuff of that sort don't count. First blood doesn't matter. that deer could go to the next county and back. 1st LETHAL shot in my book.

And as far as shooting the deer like that, i guess i dont know what to say. if you can't make a kill shot, dont take it. hitting it in the butt? sure, it happens. but when the deer is already shot to pieces, i dont think that's such a great idea. 100 yard running shot? depends on the shooter. depending how hard the deer is moving, i might take the shot with my rifle. i wouldn't be as confident with a shotgun. i've shot moving deer out to 250 yards, and the only reason i would do it is if the deer was wounded and i wanted to put it down for keeps.it's not something i'd want to take all the time.

slayer

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Target practice and shot selection. Two catchy phrases your friends might want to keep in mind.

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ITA w/Firehawk!!!

I was just talking about this with Shane, we were discussing hunters who never take their guns to the range before season opens, they just take it out to the stand and hope to hell it works and their aim is good...

It is ALWAYS a good thing to practice, you can never bee TOO good to shoot, the more practice, the more chances you won't have this problem of "who's deer is it?".

I'd say whomever had the kill shot is the one who gets the deer.

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I think that these hunters have probably received enough grief. who can say what their range schedule was before season. maybe they do practice. it sounds like they're going to have it mounted so maybe it was the first big deer that they ever saw in the woods and they got shaky or excited or something. Anyway, I'm sure most of us that have had a lot of opportunities throughout our hunting careers, have made a bad decision on a rare occasion--Its part of the learning process. these guys sound like young-uns so lets be a little more understanding and a little less condescending--I submit that anyone that hasn't made a mistake--has not had enough chances yet.
hb

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the deer goes to the one who put in the FIRST FATAL SHOT. 2 leg hits don't kill a deer.

ditto the others on the ethics of a running100 yard shot and practice.

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I wasn't there so I'll try to not post just based on what you've said. First the letter of the law. Around here it's whoever tags it first. Notice I didn't say anything about who shot it. If you pressed the issue I'm sure a LEO would say whoever put the first lethal hit.

Second there is the spirit of the law. The first guy that shot put a bad shot on it, sure. But once he hit it, it should probably be his especially among friends. I've got hunting partners that I've hunted with for years and never have we had a dispute. We decide who's deer it is before the first shell flys and that's who's deer it is. It shouldn't ever be open season to just riddle a deer with bullets and then try to work out who got it first. Based on that I would say the deer belongs to the first guys hands down. The second guy if he was a real friend I don't think would even dispute it. However if I was the first guy I would definitely offer some meat to the first guy.

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I know that my dad would have kicked my arse for taking bad shots, even when I was a young lad. A bad shot is a bad shot. Hopefully they learned their lesson. I would say the first lethal shot is the guy who got the deer. I had a buck come by in my earlier years of hunting white-tails back east. I shot him and he dropped, I took him right behind the shoulder. I gutted him and put my tag on him. As I started to drag the deer back to the road a guy began to hollar at me. He said that he mortally wounded that buck and it was his. He said that he had been tracking it in the snow for over a mile and lost blood a while back. He knew that the deer was his. After looking the deer over we found that the deer had the end of a hoof blown off. Not the whole hoof but just one side. That was the ONLY mark on the deer other than where I shot it behind the shoulder. I told him he could have it only if he admitted that I took the deer down with a blow to the hoof. Needless to say, I got my buck. Also to add. If both of your friends approached the deer and they were standing together. Then shame on the other guy who shot and is trying to claim it. It should have easily been handled by the guy who stopped the deer.

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I agree with you. The second guy had no right to shoot the deer unless he was purposely trying to steal the deer out from his so called friend. If The third guy in your party (the one who ruined the hams) gets the deer then I would congradulate him and wish him luck with his new hunting partners, cause I would never go with him again. Good Luck and maybe cut that guy loose.

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The guy that atempted to shoot it first get's the carcus!!!!!!!!!!!

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why should he get it if he didn't KILL the deer outlaw? Spell check too there buddy...

slayer

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Im enraged IF YOU A PERSON IS MAKING A SHOT MAKE A CLEAN KILL IN RESPECT OF THE ANIMAL!!![:@]

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Guys...some people keep saying "you should have" comments but what you're missing is that this guy did NOT shoot, his buddies did...saying things like "YOU BOYS" is inaccurate becuase he says he didn't shoot. This doesn't mean that shooting up a deer is an alright thing...the story is a cringing story that I personally would keep to myself, but it is not this guy's shooting story...it is about his buddies, so answer his question and don't insult him for what his buddies did. With that I would say the deer belongs to the guy who put the deer on the ground, but they might as well split the meat. If they want to fight over the rack then I would say it belongs to the guy who put it on the ground with a vital shot.

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Geez, I wonder why buckshot was invented! Go sight in your guns.

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are you serious???? so I can take a shot at a deer and miss completely, then track for a quarter mile and find where another hunter shot it thru the vitals and then claim it??? or shoot and antler off and go claim it, or the tail, or a leg, or.......... get a grip. It is the first fatal shot. Common sense. What is so hard to understand about that.

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The one that killed the deer (the last person to shoot).

Person A shoots a deer. It limps over to my stand... I shoot it in the heart. It dies. Its mine.