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bigcountry 11-11-2004 01:43 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Where in the world do you get that a dog doesn't eat the deer. I have seen dogs bring almost thru a field and eat on it. Especially feral dogs. I had a does hind all eaten away while hanging last year from dogs eating it.

1dahunter 11-11-2004 01:50 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Ok I stand corrected I should of said a well fed pet usually wont eat a deer.

Charlie P 11-11-2004 02:07 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 

Big tough man to shoot a dog. What a POS. Over a deer. I about shot a man over this issue. Somebody shoots my dog, they better worry about themselves when they climb into a stand 5AM.
So you wouldn't shoot a dog over a deer but you'de shoot a human over a dog. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm??

AJ52 11-11-2004 02:12 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
I have a few stories about dogs and lost deer due to dogs. I won't elaborate. I love dogs and would never shoot one - but- IMO a lousy no good mutt has no business in or around deer hunting ground unless its legal to use them to drive deer. Keep them leashed or penned. In areas where deer have no natural enemy a dog is its worst enemy! just my .02

bigcountry 11-11-2004 02:14 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Some humans aren't worth a dog. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

I ain't alone. I just can't tell ya what I would do. Nobody knows. I just know they would wish they didn't do it. I mean, your vehicle, or house isn't worth it. I ain't saying I would do that, but am saying alot of folks hold thier dogs in high reguard and its just plain stupid to take a risk like this for a deer. When the situation could be resolved different ways. I did some real stupid things in my teens and even early 20's. Things that were wrong much like this shooting dog thing. I look back now, and see this and have sincere regret.

Mistakes happen. Just this morning, my dobie, just took off after a rabbit. Got the lease right out of my hands. I hit him with the shock a few times and started worrying about the yahoo's that live beside me after not hearing from him, especially after this post. And their mentality when it comes to their deer hunting. "if I see a dog, I just shoot it" (even though I have yet to see them bring home a trophy buck, its usually doe, that they give away) He didn't get far. And came back. But this is a situation where things could have gone wrong. Was I that negligent. Does he deserve shot cause he scared off a buck someone was hunting. Does he deserve poisoned by these neighbors in retaliation? He did what came natural to him. Chase prey. I will learn from this and keep a better hold on our training sessions.

Roost em 1st 11-12-2004 05:29 AM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: kevin1

Roost ,

What I'm thinking you're all failing to understand is the magnitude of the problem
... but you don't seem to grasp that once Rover is on his on for awhile he invaribly reverts to pack mentality and seeks out a pack to join [quote] ORIGINAL: Roostem1st Now if the dog is left in the woods for a year and is ferociously attacking game VOILA it is FERAL. Shoot away Kevin I couldn't post the quotes so they look pretty but maybe you could re-read what I was saying. I DO UNDERSTAND!!! Maybe it won't take a year for the dog to be feral but in any case I do see that they can become feral if left to their own.
I am sorry if I suggested you like to shoot pets. That was not the point I was after. Just telling what Feral was. I live in the country where a man depends on his neighbors and knows them, a far cry from what some of the city or suburban lifestyles boast. I've lived in both and choose the country. I'm not a "poor little doggy" kinda guy, rather a respectful person who evaluates each situation in the woods with an open mind. Yeah the farmers dogs have ruined some hunts but his property has also yielded some great hunts and a bounty fit for a king on my dinner table. He respects me enough to allow me to hunt and I respect him and his property. I depend on him for refuge from the day to day affairs of work and life. He counts on me to control his Coyote population and provide him with fresh tenderloin this time of year. Good Luck to ya this season!!

kevin1 11-12-2004 10:31 AM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Thanks for being understanding Roost ,
cityfolk just don't have a clue when it comes to the strays they think nothing of dumping on us and the problems they can cause . Good luck to you too .

bigcountry 11-12-2004 10:41 AM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Thats right Kevin1, your the only one here from the country. Or understands the country.

Roost, man you say you come from bowling green. But from a fellow kentuckian from Pike County/ Martin, we consider that area the yups of the state. No offense. When I was there last it was much more populated than Coal Country.

3ptbuck 11-12-2004 03:32 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
For any of you guys who say you would shoot a dog while deer hunting - you are a stupid P O S. I usually could care less what others do as long as they keep it to themselves but this is something I feel strongly about. If any of you idiots ever come acrossed one of my dogs in the woods and decide to be a 'big man' and shoot them you better hope I dont find out. I would feel no remorse over shooting someone that shot one of my dogs.
Those of you who ask "You'd shoot a person over a dog?", obviously dont understand the relationship between a man and his pets. They are like family. Some people say that its my own negligence since my dog is running freely through the woods. You telling me your dogs have never gotten loose? I let my dogs run every day in the yard but once in a while they sneak off into the woods without me noticing.
got a lot more to say but Im gonna stop for now...dont need to add too much fuel to the fire..

SteveBNy 11-12-2004 04:57 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Just curious - do those whose pets are like family let their kids play in the road?

TreestandEd 11-12-2004 05:05 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
All I have to say is shoot wisley, If man shoots my dog while hunting he will be in a world of hurt.

zak123 11-12-2004 05:13 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Saw a dog today while on my property. I had 3" of 00 buck shot in my 12 gauge. He was 10 yards away. I let him go. I will not shoot a dog. If they attacked me then I would, but just for "fun" then no.

3ptbuck 11-12-2004 05:14 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Steve- No I would not let my kids play in the road, nor do I let my dogs. Luckily I live at the end of a dead-end street so traffic isnt a problem. Only one of my dogs has made an attempt to walk up the road and now she isnt allowed to be loose outside without me keeping an eye on her.

Trustee 11-12-2004 07:17 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
I know I live in South Korea right now!

mike bell 11-12-2004 08:53 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
Listen, we have a major problem with stray, wild or feral dogs, what ever you call them. The club I'm in, on average, harvested thirty to forty deer a year when I joined. Now if we get ten a year we are lucky. One thing we know, is that dogs are a big problem. We see more dogs tracks then deer tracks now. We have several trail camaras placed on the property. Guess what 80% percent of all pictures are of------------- D O G S ! ! ! None of them have collers.

So which is it?

Landowners rights or pet owners rights?


What if your pet dog, is responsible for causing someone in my family riding a horse on my land, to fall off and get seriously injuried or killed because your dog chased or spooked the horse? Whos responsible for your dogs actions now???

I would not shoot someones pet dog but as far as Im concerned, the pet dog owner should be charged with tresspassing and pay a fine to the landowner. Maybe that will keep pets out of the woods.

I own dogs, and I go out of my way to make sure they aint in the woods. I would think that another man in his right mind would respect another mans right to his land.

If its not someones pet, remove it. If it is their pet, hold them responsible.

wihunter32 11-12-2004 09:03 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
ive seen far too many stray dogs chasing deer in my time hunting. i havent shot any but have considered it since when i see the same dogs doing this on my family's and neibhbors 1000 acre block of land. we dont know where these dogs come from, but as far as i can tell, they have no owners.

i would never shoot a dog the first time i saw it chasing a deer, but if i have seen it repeating this behavior miles away from any possible owneri might consider shooting it

bushmaster_5bko 11-12-2004 09:40 PM

RE: dogs in the deer woods
 
I don't think the dog will bother them. .they're used to coyotes and such it would probably be alright. As for the does. most likely will take a little while for them to adjust and come back.


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