Poaching problems?
 

Do you any of have poaching problems? hopefully we ending ours:D. there was these 5 guys that did a drive right through our property while we were hunting last year! well they drove the deer right to my uncle which he shot the deer right in front of them! they were scared s***less!! it was the funniest thing i have ever seen!! then after words were exchanged they left. hopefully they wont come back but there will always be poaching.

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My uncle right down the road has problems with his neighbors running dogs through his property and shooting his deer frm the road and a friend of mine also down the road has a problem with his neighbors shooting his turkeys but there both trying to take care of the problem now

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My lease is 6,000 acres with about 17 miles of low perimeter fencing. After last season we asked the land owner to high fence one mile of the perimeter because some of the hunters on the adjoining property kept coming onto our lease.

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Lots of gun shots at night around here. And now people are reinforcing a junk truck front end and are running trophies down.

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A cell phone is your best weapon against poachers and trespassers. I personally don't want to confront someone who is breaking laws with a gun but I sure have no problems making the phone call.

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A picture says a thousand words ,
a cell phone only need five , "Get over here right now."

When all else fails one well placed shot says more than enough to deter most poachers . Aim above their heads ... ;)

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In response to Rusty...

Shooting from the road?!?! Shooting onto others property?

I wouldn't hesitate to try and video these losers! Believe me, when you show this to the coppers and offer them the tape for their use, you won't be able to knock the grin off his face with a baseball bat!

For everyone......shooting from the road, trespassing and taking game by illegal means IS NOT HUNTING! We should all lead our young hunters (our future) BY EXAMPLE. And by this I mean how we conduct ourselves and (just as importantly) how we take care of these problems.

Uncle Matt (in IL)

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Our tenant on the lease caught 2 kids last fall whose truck got stuck in a field. He came over with the quad and called the state troopers. The kids ran and left their truck/spot light/ guns behind but the state trooper had no real interest in bringing these kids to justice so he basically let them go. really sucks when the cops are too "busy"!!!

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no one actually lives on these 2 propertys yet so theres often no one there to tape and its done at night time alot to but the authorities have been told and they do alot more patrols through the area it dosent do to much good but its better then nothing. A kid I knew in school just got arrested for poaching less then a year ago him and his friends were driving around spot lighting and they shot I believe it was 12 deer in 2 days and dumped them at the end of a culdasac(sp?) 1 or 2 were fawns a couple were bucks and the rest were does and all they did was cut the horns off the bucks all the rest they just shot and dumped but he finally got caught and all he got was a small(couple thousand dollars)fine and that was it and get this it wasent even his first time being arrested for it he had done it before when he was younger people like that make me sick

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That just sickens me to my guts! I have seen some poachers and heard them at night before, my 12 GA and a few rounds of slugs usually scare them off. I don't give a damn about these kind of people, I try to blow their car up if I see them poaching!

my 2 cents...

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Switch to cheap shotshells , the effect is the same and you won't have to waste perfectly good slugs .

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lol. i had a guy poaching on my fathers land one night. i got my videotape out and taped them tearing threw the woods on four wheelers with over 5 deer on the back. they weren't whereing helments and the cops got them the next day. they had to pay us $1000 for every deer and they got an additonal $10,000 fine, got there 2 4 wheelers taken away. there guns taken away. and i think a couple of other things so they got theres!

however shooting at these guys can bring charges against you!!! take a picture and call it in

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One night me and a few other guys were out shining with a spotlight, we were riding on scooters, Honda elite etc. well, we went pass this one guys house and saw a few does, then we pulled over to rest for a minute. Here came the guy on his atv, he thought it was funny seeing us on them scooters lol, but anyways he said some guys were shooting a few nights before right at his house and he was just making sure we didnt have any guns. WE DIDNT. Then we told him there are 3 Monster bucks right around his house. As soon as he left, we shined our light down the bank where we were at, and there they were! the 3 Monster bucks we told him about were about 100 feet away from us! we watched them for about 10 minutes then they ran off and we left. ITS LEGAL TO USE A SPOTLIGHT HERE AS LONG AS YOU DONT HAVE A GUN WITH YOU. The bad thing about it, those 3 bucks might not make it through the year.

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[quote]ORIGINAL: kevin1

Switch to cheap shotshells , the effect is the same and you won't have to waste perfectly good slugs .

Yeah, I would, but my shotgun has a rifled barrel...so.....

Plus, I don't think they will stay around to see who's shooting at them and then have to explain to the police that they were poaching and then someone fired at them...as far as I know, they could have been aiming towards me ;)

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high power rifle to the engine compartment will usually slow them down till the cops get there

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True, I was thinking I might have better chances of hitting something vital with a 1 oz slug, like a tire or something. As long as there is damage, they might think about it twice before they decide to do something that stupid.

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Personally If I did catch someone on MY property Poaching Id put a few rounds into the engine compartment your bound to stop the engine and from there the cops can catch them either in person or by running the tags and since there on your property and breaking the law You probably couldent get in much trouble

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Come on now, let's hold our horses here.

Actually shooting at people or their vehicles?

That's crazy talk. I imagine (know) you'd certainly find yourself in some serious trouble.

Probobly felony trouble.

Uncle Matt (in IL)

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Hey Uncle Matt, first off NO. I have not personally done it, but I think to hold someone at gun-point while the sheriff comes would work. I wouldn't do this alone though because they are armed as well. Next thing to do it if you see them shoot something you could just pick the animal up and sit and wait for them to come back for it, then you let them look into your 12 GA barrel....?

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What bothers me is lately here in WI kids 19 to 21 have been out shooting deer, turkeys, cranes, pheasants, coons and anything else that moves. They are doing it for the "Thrill". What is going to happen when that "Thrill" is gone. Will they next get the "Thrill" from shooting at houses? Maybe people? What is the matter with these guys?

Another thing they do is give us hunters a bad name. Because the media calls them hunters. So that is what the general public hears about hunters.

The whole thing makes me sick.[:'(]

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On some property I hunt, someone illegaly shot a bear and just left it there for dead. As far as I know, no one knows who did it.


[:@]Poachers[:'(]

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adams is right, you can't beat a cell phone where poachers & trespassers are concerned, especially if they are armed. Absolutely foolish to try to intervene by yourself.

We've got a 2,200 acre lease in the NW Arkansas mountains with a county road right through the middle. Even though we've got the road extremely well posted, we still have a problem with road hunters.

Last season, one of our members heard a vehicle come to a stop on the road not far from where he was hunting. Couple of seconds later, two shots were fired. He went out to the road and found a old pick-up parked on the road with no one in sight. Obviously, they had gone into the woods to retrieve the deer they had shot. He first called a couple of us on his radio for backup and then called the local sherifs department. The deputy actually got there about the same time we did. He immediately recognized the pick-up and said that he knew who they were, that they were really bad folks and that there was no way in heck he was going into the woods after them. We offered to go in with him but he wouldn't have any part of that either.

He called in some more deputies and the game warden. They finally went a ways into the woods and found the doe that had been shot. No sign of the guys from the truck. They took the deer and empounded the truck. Never did hear if they cought the guy.

Point is, even the police had better sense than to go in after these guys. We won't go out of our way to start a confrontation, but we do have sense enough to protect ourselves. We all cary side arms now, especially in the off season, and most of us cary cell phones as well.

firstshot

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Never confront a poacher. Get their info like lic plate, vehicle description(make, model & color), how many, names if you know them. Turn it into the Game wardens or State Patrol, that is what they get paid for........thats their job. It doesn't always end the way its supposed to like on Cops.

As far as shooting at their vehicles or "above their heads" is the most ridiculous thing I think Ive read on this site. Yeah you may think it b/c you're so mad but WHAT IF something didn't work out like you planned? Are you ready to face man slaughter or assault wiith a deadly weapon? There are consiquences to everything we do, so we must be able to see past the tunnel vision.

Pass on the info of poachers & let the Game Dept reward you with $$$$ or preference points. ;)

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Yes, the most reasonable thing is to call the police. Problem is that sometimes the police shows up after they pick the game up and leave and if you don't want to get close enough to get a plate number, it could be hard to get them. Anyway, I know the officers in the Chatham County Sheriff's office and one of them told me they had people calling about firearms being discharged at night in some area. After patrolling the area with unmarked cars for a couple of nights, they finaly caught someone driving around with a gun in his truck. They couldn't charge him for anything though as he hadn't shot anything when they stopped him, but they told him that if they saw him around there again or if he was even thinking about doing anything illegal, he would go down hard... :)

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first let me say this, this web sight is outstanding and it sounds like there is a lot of great sportsman out there, and this reply of mine has no bearing on the ethics or personalities of any of you. but what i have read hear within this post is disturbing.i understand it just plain sucks to have someone misuse your land or better yet our resources for which all of us sportsman like.i have heard within this post set an example.....be a positive role model for children.you guys who talk about shooting at people listen to yourselves.....would you like your child or someone elses shooting at other kids because they were in thier school bags without permission ect. if you dont mind maybe you should sell that wonderful piece of land you have and move to an inner city and you guys with itchy trigger fingers can shoot it out for your past time. so instead of spending a couple of wonderful weeks at deer camp you can spend it in a cold jail cell. worst of all if somthing goes wrong and you got killed you leave your family behind. let the police deal with it, get what proof you can but most of all stay safe. sorry if i offended anyone i hate poachers as much as anybody but let use are heads.

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I second the motion!

Uncle Matt (in IL)

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sorry guys but i have to agree with bigboyz and uncle matt on this one, shooting at other human beings no matter how much of a lowlife they may be is not the solution, and as well also adds fuel to the anti's fires ,, i can understand how each and everyone of you feel but violence beggets more violance and IMHO this world has enough of it..

i know most of you are speaking out of anger but we as hunters and outdoorsman need to stick together and abide by the rules as hard as that may be in this kind of situation it is truly the only recourse we have,, and i to am sorry if this has upset or offended any of you was not my intent,,, well nuff said deadshot / aka larry

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You can always handle it like this farmer did :)

A stockbroker from New York City got tired of all the stories of his office colleagues who went deer hunting each fall. They frequently boasted of their prowess in the hunt and how many deer they had bagged. So not to be outdone this broker decides he's going hunting to show them all up. He buys the most expensive rifle available, all his hunting clothes and gear from Cabela's, gets his license and then goes hunting. After an exasperating day of hiking through the brush and briars without seeing a single deer, he heads back to his car. On the way back, he sees a nice buck standing in a small clearing. He raises his rifle and blazes away at it and actually hit it. The buck ran and finally fell in a nearby farmyard.

As the hunter started to climb over the fence to retrieve his kill, he was confronted by a farmer who says, "Where in the heck, do you think you're going city boy?"

The guy replies, "I'm going to get my buck.

The farmer replies, "My property, my buck."

The guy says, "Oh come on, I've been out here all day and and that is the only buck that I've seen, I shot it and it's my buck!"

The farmer again says, "My property, my buck."

Well, they argued for a few minutes and, finally, the farmer says, "Ok, I'll tell you what, we'll settle this country style."

The guy says, "What's that?"

The farmer says, "Well, I kick you in the crotch as hard as I can, and then you kick me in the crotch as hard as you can, and we keep this up and the last man standing keeps the buck."

The guy not wanting to return home empty-handed reluctantly agrees. The farmer wearing large heavy work boots haul back and kicks the guy in the crotch with all his might. The guy's eyes roll back in his head, he coughs and wheezes but barely manages to remain standing.

He composes himself somewhat and says to the farmer, "Okay, now its my turn."

The farmer replies, "Oh, you can have the buck."