100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
08-16-2004, 09:11 PM
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
Very well.
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...+factors&hl=en
BTW in your quotes above, I see alot of the word, MAYBE and PROBABLY, but not a DEFINATLEY.
quote:
Nutrition is important, but other factors, such as genetics and age, PROBABLY play a role in the antler growth of deer in Missouri.
And actually, my "Theory of not eating as much that you laughed at, even your "biologist" above states
"Nutrition is the major factor regulating antler size. Poor nutrition caused by overpopulation, severe weather or inferior habitat is a problem in many areas. A farmland yearling can grow a bigger rack than a 3-year-old in a mature forest because it has access to more and higher-quality food. Adult bucks in poor condition may never grow big racks, despite proper genetics. On the other hand, a buck in good physical condition still needs the right genetic code to grow record-book antlers. "
Laugh away, you are wrong.
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...+factors&hl=en
BTW in your quotes above, I see alot of the word, MAYBE and PROBABLY, but not a DEFINATLEY.
quote:
Nutrition is important, but other factors, such as genetics and age, PROBABLY play a role in the antler growth of deer in Missouri.
And actually, my "Theory of not eating as much that you laughed at, even your "biologist" above states
"Nutrition is the major factor regulating antler size. Poor nutrition caused by overpopulation, severe weather or inferior habitat is a problem in many areas. A farmland yearling can grow a bigger rack than a 3-year-old in a mature forest because it has access to more and higher-quality food. Adult bucks in poor condition may never grow big racks, despite proper genetics. On the other hand, a buck in good physical condition still needs the right genetic code to grow record-book antlers. "
Laugh away, you are wrong.
08-16-2004, 10:14 PM
#12
Giant Nontypical
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
On the other hand, a buck in good physical condition still needs the right genetic code to grow record-book antlers. "
By the way I don't disagree nutrients are extremely important to antler growth and deer health in general.
My original statement:
Genetics most certainly plays a part in growth potential, as does nutrients, stress & age.
Genetics most certainly plays a part in growth potential, as does nutrients, stress & age.
I read the link prior and here is a quote I pulled:
The ultimate size of the antlers is a function of age. The maximum growth occurs in the mature adult and there is a small decrease after this peak is reached.
08-16-2004, 10:20 PM
#13
Giant Nontypical
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
And actually, my "Theory of not eating as much that you laughed at, even your "biologist" above states
"Nutrition is the major factor regulating antler size. Poor nutrition caused by overpopulation, severe weather or inferior habitat is a problem in many areas. A farmland yearling can grow a bigger rack than a 3-year-old in a mature forest because it has access to more and higher-quality food. Adult bucks in poor condition may never grow big racks
"Nutrition is the major factor regulating antler size. Poor nutrition caused by overpopulation, severe weather or inferior habitat is a problem in many areas. A farmland yearling can grow a bigger rack than a 3-year-old in a mature forest because it has access to more and higher-quality food. Adult bucks in poor condition may never grow big racks
I admit it you've proved I am out to lunch...thanks again for the enlightenment.
Side note best of luck in your 04' hunting season...
08-17-2004, 06:40 AM
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
Very interesting read, this guy studies antler growth, and has scientifically shown what protiens and chemicals make them grow the fastest.
Once again, it has nothing to do with genetics.
Once again, it has nothing to do with genetics.
Genetics and nutrition both play a role.
08-17-2004, 09:48 AM
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
ORIGINAL: Hoopy
Genetics has nothing to do with antler growth, it has been PROVEN scientifically. Just like the Earth is round.
Age has nothing to do with antler growth.
As for why arent all racks the exact same?
Maybe some deer eat more then others, once again, genetics does not play a role in antler developement.
Genetics has nothing to do with antler growth, it has been PROVEN scientifically. Just like the Earth is round.
Age has nothing to do with antler growth.
As for why arent all racks the exact same?
Maybe some deer eat more then others, once again, genetics does not play a role in antler developement.
08-17-2004, 10:34 AM
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
Yes, I admit Im dumb, I just listen and read what the Federally approved scientists say on the matter.
What do I know, Im not a hillbilly who knows everything.
What do I know, Im not a hillbilly who knows everything.
08-17-2004, 10:39 AM
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
I just listen and read what the Federally approved scientists say on the matter
08-17-2004, 11:52 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
Yes, I admit Im dumb, I just listen and read what the Federally approved scientists say on the matter
Which Federal sanctioning body "approves" scientists?
08-17-2004, 02:43 PM
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RE: 100 GOOD QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE ALOT OF THOUGHT (2cd question)
Yes, I admit Im dumb, I just listen and read what the Federally approved scientists say on the matter.
For two, i dont trust people all that much with degrees, do u know how many people got their degrees off of web-sites. I interviewed a young lady today who was a history major, and she couldnt name the first president, or any historical event that had taken place........u know what she told me? Said she got all her reports off a web-site for 40$-60$ dollars.......education at its best!I believe deer grow bigger and better antlers as they get older with proper nutrition and no damage during velvet.
