Sad Deer Situation IN My Back Yard
 

There is 3000 acres of prime deer habitate behind my house.The guy who owns it is a land monger who buys land and sits on it for years then sells it for a huge profit.He sells it for landfills ,industries or highpriced developements. In 1989 he bought this land for 700,000 he sold it for 70,000 a acre to a developer who is going to build 2500 high priced cardboard boxes.They will all look alike and be bought by yuppie city slickers,in debt to the hilt.The guy did not allow hunting on this property he is a peta member.The deer population is huge.I could not grow anything in my yard,they ate it all including ripping the grapevines right off the walls of my house.Now what are the deer going to do withthat 3000 acres being made in to cardboard and asphalt.That idiot loves the deer so much he will now let them starve to death because of the loss of habitate. They are destroyng anything I plant in my yard.strip the bark of my fruit trees eat the bird seed,just incredible. I have been trying to help them and keep them away from my grape vines by feeding them corn and roasted soybeans over the winter.It has helped ,is keeping them away from my plants.But I went thru 2000Lbs a feed so far this year.But look at the PICS 90 and 89.One is before the development and one is after the development. This was done in 3 months.Id like to hang all money grabbing developers.
www.community.webshots.com/user/cardeer51, Click on Midnight and go to PICS 90 & 89 click to enlarge.

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Do the deer herd a favor and instead of feeding them, shoot as many as you legally can. Once you shoot your limit, invite some hunting buddies over and let them fill their tags also. You can't feed them enough to help the herd, they'll just multiply more.

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Wish I could ,no nuntin allowed on his property and as soon as people see anyone huntin around my house they call the cops.These new city slicker neighbors are a bunch of yuppie panty waste.

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that's got to make you sick. thanks for reminding me why I moved to the boonies.

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Thats the way these anti's think,let the deer die a natural way by starving to death.And they claim to be helping the deer survive.

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Give it some time CD... as soon as those new neighbors see all of their $20,000 shrubbery and landscaping being "ruined" by the deer they will change their tune.

It is just sad to see the loss of habitat.

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I agree with [ critter] thats why we live back in the mountains..

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I feel your pain. I see urban development all around my neighborhood and townships and it makes me sick. As I type this, they're building a new house behind my house in the woods that I grew up in! Thankfully, there is a 33-odd acre patch that is not touched. Still has a few good hunting spots and I try to get out there a few times a year. I've contemplated buying it and developing some good trails and food plots.

-Mike

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This is a fear of mine also. I live on a dead end street in a very small town. The elderly lady across the street owns the 400 acres beyond the street. It is full of deer and is an equal mix of hardwoods and corn/soybean fields. I'm afraid when she dies her children will sell the land to a developer. I'm thinking about asking if she will sell at least part of it to me. If she sells it to me the land will never be developed!!

Dan Blair

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Cardeer; the same thing happened when they started ripping out the vineyards next door and putting in greenhouses. Couldn't you find some Indian artifacts or rare plants on the property. It always helps them sell houses next door if you put up a big sign saying "Future home of the Cardeer Toxic Waste Dump".

Dan O.

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Sorry to hear about that cardeer. My area has the same problems I live in one of the fastest growing couties in my state. Seems like everyone is moving away from the metro area (cant imagine why) and coming here. The biggest buck I ever got in my life now has a house sitting right where I got the deer. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Bolt man has a good idea. If you are worried about the deer eating your garden and fruit trees I read some where that if you tie bars of heavily perfumed soap(irish spring etc.) around your garden and trees the deer will associate it with people and stay away. I dont know if it works, I spend most of my time trying to attract them. Sad story though. I guess peta people think its ethical to starve the deer to death rather than shoot them.

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Cardeer the soap works like a charm. A small bar protects the tree for a year. Other people say that spraying soap solution or raw eggs keeps deer away also.

Dan O.

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Cardeer, sorry to hear a story like yours, man. I freaking hate developers. They pi$$ me off<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> You oughta see what they are doing to some parts of Delaware. It's disgusting. The s.o.b's tear up the farm land, build thousands of houses then take their money and build elsewhere. Luckily in my area Black Bird State Forest has been getting the farm land around here and turning it into public land for hunting. Whew!!! I retire from GM in 5 years then I'm outa here and look for my cabin in the woods away from everybody. Progress sucks!!!

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Yep,sad situation in alot of back-yards unfortunatly.I agree the loss of habitat is a terrible thing.The real irony here is the anti-hunters look at us as the demons here,uninformed as they are and they feel that the best way to protect wildlife is to take the law abiding sportsmen(and women) out of the equation.
Then they are the first to buy into the newer developments that are quickly encroaching into widerness areas that our beloved animals have called home.Next comes the inevitable....there are too many deer around here...they are desroying all my beautiful landscaping...somebody help!
Next we'll have some moron trying to convince the bewildered residents that they can intiate a program to sterilize the deer herd,thereby putting a stop to the reproduction of so many deer.Thousands of dollars spent every year on this lame-brain plan.Highly ineffective everywhere it has ever been tried,but somebody else gets rich why they figure out that ...this ain't working!
Sooner or later,the answer starts to come to them..well,maybe hunting would help to curb them some.DUH!!
In the meantime,what do we do?Talk to people,enlighten them about hunting,take a stand for what you believe in.Do it in a calm and informed manner.Know what you're talking about and have your facts straight.
This problem is not going away folks,it is our responsibility to protect our heritage.Man was put on this Earth as a predator,some just don't want to believe it.
Like the song goes...I can see the concrete slowly creeping,Lord take me and mine before that comes!

Later......whackman

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what a waste of land I was in Germany once when I was in the army those people dont have the land to waste everybody lives in small towns and villages and all the land surrounds the towns its beutiful over here we are turning all the fertile farmland into strip malls and housing complexes for shame for shame<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>

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CD I feel for ya I really do. I have a short story for you. I got a call from a friend of our family they are not hunters and don't or didn't believe in hunting. they loved to see the deer in there yard and thought that why would anyone hunt these beautiful animals. Well the guy calls me and tells me that he had a Japinese maple tree that was just over 6 feet high and now after the deer got hold of it, it is only about 11 inches tall. HE call me and said Kill these SOB's so I went over and got and nice spike of there land this year for them and they appreciated it. Even the neighbors said tell him to come over here and get some off my property for me too. Well we had a big party over out house with all our friends and they came and I cooked deer roasts 2 or them to be exact. These people who didn't like deer hunting even tried it and said it was really good. What a change so maybe they will to like what PA said with all that expensive shrubbary around. This tree costed them over 2 hundred dollars. SO there maybe be some light at the end or atleast I hope there is.

Brian

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SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT WHATS GOING ON IN YOUR BACK YARD. I WOULD TRY THE SOAP, HEARD THAT IT WORKS

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Hey cardeer, you can't even bowhunt on your own property? I hunt in a very suburban area with houses all around and have to be very careful, there are a lot of deer lovers out there. I'm in the landscape buisness and have people begging me to bowhunt their property but also have people freak out if they know I'm hunting &quot;their babies&quot; I can't understand why you can't hunt your own property. Please explain

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Pabuck I agree with you on Germany. They condense there living and keep the land. My brother lived in a house where a barn was attached to one side. The old cow would swing swing her chain and you would hear the clanking.

Cardeer and the rest of us should start calling the newspaper and TV news stations with these stories. Someone mentioned Richard Gere turning land into a horse ranch(Tazman?) Shouldn't these people be shown as hypocrytes????????

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Tarsal Pennsylvania land of taxes,yuppies and peta heads.Township ordinance. Where there s a development of more then 50 homes the shooting of animals cant be any closer then a quarter of a mile from the development.this is a new development that just threw this area in to that zone. Time to move.

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Cardeer that i s the American way, Buy cheap, sell high, screw the neighbors and the neighborhood. I moved to the country in 77, now it's not country anymore. My older neighbors once told me that when a car went by they used to go to the window and look out , now its like a traffic jam on week nights.

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RonM, just look what's happening to Middletown!!! Everybody says if you want to live in the country, go below the canal. They are and the &quot;country&quot; below the canal is turning into one HUGE development. It's sad...<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Cardeer, don't worry about it. Deer can adapt to anything. You have seen some of the deer taken from our property. These deer live between a highway, a prison, a airport, and a bunch of little developments. They live in little 30-60 acre patches of woods. Sure, there are a lot of fields and stuff, but they adapt more than most people think. I see deer pretty much every night standing on the runways at the airport licking the salt on the pavement. They found the airport property/prison property to be a safe haven. No hunters, but they still venture off the property to find food. If you want to take some of these deer out, I would set up as close as you can to the areas where the deer moved, stay on land that you can hunt, just wait for the deer to move out of there to find food.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

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Sorry to hear of your problem. NJ is full of this type of thing and it's making everyone sick! We have lost about 4 choice hunting spots in the last 15 yrs and my current one has a driving range going up in the back.

Let's just hope that they dont use your tax money to hire sharpshooters like in Princeton, NJ!

Looking at the world from 15 feet up.

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Urban sprawl is hitting all over this country. I live 15 mile from OK's largest city and am loosing alot of hunting spots to new houses. The old farmers die off and all that their families can think of is selling the prop. for a profit. I also want to move farther out but the wife says no. It's a sad situation everywhere.

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i tell ya what id do,id take pictures of these starvin deer and when theyre all herded up and pics of the land now, and later,and post them somewhere along with the guys name and ask&quot;does this look like someone who cares&quot;