Poachers
 

Coming home from hunting this mornin, I thought I seen a deer layin on its side down in this ditch on the edge of the property I hunt on right by the road. Its like a dropoff down on this drainage ditch tube. I got down there and notice 3 does. 2 stacked on top of one another and yet a third on down beside the water. All 3 skinned down to the front quarters with the backstraps and hind leg meat gone[:@]
The doe on top had a bullet hole through her nose, the doe under her had a hole in her ribs and the third down in was skinned down to a big bruise which was about the size of a bruise caused by a gun shot. It was also in the correct position, in her ribs! I could see her as she wasnt covered by another deer, her leg bones were showing as the meat was gone.
I called the Game Warden and told him where they were and described the situation to him and he said there was 2 others found on a little hill across the road on the neighboring property durring shotgun as well. He said he would check it out tomorrow while he is making his rounds.
Man, this angers me to no end[:@] The fact that it was more deer than we are allowed to kill in a year, on top of that its on the property I hunt on. MAN this sucks[:@] This is my first run in with poachers especially around here.
Damn this sucks[:'(]
I HATE POACHERS[:@]

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What a bunch of losers.That sucks.I hope they catch them

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thats terrible, hate to hear about the scum doing that. Hope the gamewarden catches them but its unlikely [:@]

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Maybe all ethical hunters will get lucky....and the SOB's will choke on the meat!

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I feel your pain, deerhuntr107. Hopefully justice will catch up with these criminals, whether the GW catches them or they just do something stupid to themselves.

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It disgusts me when freaking idiots do this. I have seen situations like this in the past and the GW's never seem to catch these losers. I echo akbound's statement, "I hope they choke on the meat." That's a waste of good animals and good meat. I hope that the GW's there catch the criminals. That's 5 deer in a small area.

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If you poach you will roast losers:D

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catch them yourself, obviously the game wardens already knew about them and havent caught them, when they make there rounds what does that mean, lazy asses

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I agree with you. I firmly believe that the first thing to do is call the GW. That way you've alerted them through the official channels. Having done that, it's never a bad idea to make your own rounds through the property with a 12 gauge in hand. A show of force gets the message across better than anything else.

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most Gamewardens couldn't catch a poacher if they nuked the whole county they worked in

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I know, but I wouldn't feel right not contacting them. I have a lot of respect for all game laws, even if the enforcers don't always get the job done. A man/woman has to defend and protect his/her own land, but if I can get a GW to come and get his hands dirty and make an arrest, less work for me.

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Last week my brother found 2 whole deer beside one of our greenfilds. No meat was gone but the antlers had been cut off. On top of this we found horse tracks all over our property. These scum are not only poaching, but they're doing it at night. That's a real problem for a GW to overcome. I intend on leaving some pretty serious messages on signs around our place & I'm also putting a couple of game cams out. I'll have to lock them down & chain them to the tree & hope these a**holes don't notice the cameras. I don't know what else to do.

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that sucks. but it's a better poaching story than most i hear ...at least they took the meat and didn't let it rot.

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I was talking to some people yesterday that mentioned that there was some people hunting a place in Iowa that they own. They noticed that there was some vehicle there from out of state hunting on their property. They went over to confront them and tell them to get off their land. The out of staters pulled their guns on them and kicked them off of their own property at gun point. You have to be very carefully when you do this...apparently even on your own land. Some people are crazy enough to pull anything to hunt even if it means doing a lot of illegal things. I would definitely contact the proper authorities before you take matters into your own hands. The land owners didn't even get the plate number on the vehicle parked on their land.

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By all means don't take a gun when confronting poachers. Get descriptions and license numbers and let the law do their job.

You might drive around at night and record license numbers of any cars you find parked.

Put your local law enforcement phone number on your cell phone so it is at hand.

Don't take any chances with poachers and don't have any reservations about turning in neighbors and locals.

There is a digital game camera on the market that does not flash when taking a picture. It makes no noise either, so poachers have no idea they are getting caught. I had a trail cam stolen this summer by a trespasser who got caught on film. It was a regular flash-style camera so he knew it was there.

I plan to get a couple of the digital cameras so I can catch the SOB.

Stay safe and good luck!

LLBUX

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Aught Six I highly disagree wity you. These poachers are scum bags. If they have the nerve to kill deer for trophy then you don't know what they could do to you. If you had to catch them yourself, I would bring the 12 gauge and sit up in my tree stand. Don't sit on the ground. They could think your a deer and shoot you. Wait till you see them. When you see them, don't let them know your their. Call the gw quietly and say I have them on my property now. Get out here. If they do catch you act like you were deer hunting. Don't make it look obvious you were out to get them. Neb.buckhunter. I agree with you. Call the gw first and see what they say. Also LLBUX I do agree with you. If you were out to get them I would take a weapon but wouldn't make it obvious I had one. Like a pistol.

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Heres what I did/

I had a problem in the early season with trespassing. I found a grunt call at my stand. So I post the land (10acres) and haven't had a problem since, until last night.

I used my climber and go up about 30' to see the next ridge. I'm in there about 4:00pm. Well about 4:45pm I hear something. I look back and see this guy sneaking into my stand. (My ladder stand is on the other tree about 50yds away but I used my climber to see more area.) And he comes on in looks around and has a seat in my stand. I'm mad! And I thought about slinging and arrow by him or in him. But I decided against that. So I sit there for about 15 min. Mad as hel.
My next step may upset some of ya'll. Sorry but this is what I did!
I get down and walk right by him. He doesn't move. So I go to the truck and call the law. I figure he will leave if I don't so I found his truck and used some needle nose pliers and pulled his vavle stem out of his front tire. So I know he's stuck! Then I leave. I go up the road about 3 miles and wait for the law.
The law comes by and ask's whats up. I tell them and follow them to the truck. He is still in my stand!!! The law ******s him to his truck and writes him a ticket. Ask's me if I want to press charges and I say yes. We give info to the law, then we leave.
This am I go by there and his truck is still there but he ain't. So I called to have it towed away. AT 9:00am this am, the towing co. called me and said as they were leaving with his truck he came by riding with another person and was raisin hel to get his car off the lift. The towing guy told him it would be $150.00 to drop the truck there or he could come get it at the garage and it would be $200.00 Well he don't have the money on him so he has to get it later for $200.00

Ticket=$200.00
Towing= $200.00
Going to court=?$

Getting revenge= PRICELESS!!

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very resourceful solution farmcntry. I'd be keeping an eye out now though. People with that mentality won't take that lightly.

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who doesnt hate poachers ?

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Today the game warden was supposed to be out to take a look.
I wish it would be easier to look for this guy but it isnt gonna be. Only about 3 guys ever bow hunt this property but gun season is a different story! I didnt hunt there at all durring gun season. Within these 4 fields there was 12 guys and only 2 does got killed. Muzzle loader there was 8 guys and I dont know how many deer they killed. If there wasnt so many people, or even if I knew all of the guys out there, it might be easier but with so many people and me not knowing them all, this will be dang near impossible. I am gonna start driving out there at night and looking for vehicles parked at the places where all the guys park. Hopefully this idiot will screw up and park at one of these spots some evening and I will get the plate# and call the warden back.
Hopefully[:@]

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scum bags poachers and thieves will be theirs in the next life

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We have also had thes problems a few years ago a neighbor came up to my father inlaws and said he shot a deer and it ran onto his property and could he drive up and pick up. will later we went up there and found right were the deer died blood all over but no blood trail any where started looking around and found his scent canisters in the trees and a spot where he had stood in by aceder abroke off the branches. nice buck probably scored 140 or so. This year about six thirty one morning they heard a shot a got to the window just in time to see someone pull down there the fields and jump out and drag a deer into his truck father in law tried to catch him but the guy drove through the fieldto another drive had to be doing eighty or better because pa could not even get close. hard to believe these people acn be proud of these deer.

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NY did I mention that I'm a part-time trapper?

You know those big (illegal) bear traps? Guess what!?!

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Yes, they are scum. That's why I'd approach a poacher expecting a fight. He makes a move on you and you shoot his ass. I really don't have any sympathy for them, and I stand by my right to defend myself from bodily harm.

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Aught six I was just going to say in the story if they do shoot at you then shoot back. Self defense. I guess I forgot.

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Damn straight! There are some real Arschlöcher out there, and I'm not going to let them break the law on my land or threaten me. Believe me, I'm young and I've got to look forward to in life; getting into a gunfight is the last thing I want to do right now. Then again, I'm not going to be any kind of victim, whether as a property owner or someone being threatened with deadly force. They ask for it, they'll get it. I'll I can do is hope that I'm faster and steadier.

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how do the cops know he shot frist?

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How do they know????? Forensics...crime scene ananlysis! (And...don't ever lie after a shooting....or you are already guilty of a serious crime....perjury. And it makes you appear guilty of much more!)

Even if they are scum....if you escalulate and or precipitate a confrontation...you have reduced or nullified your "legal" claim to self defense. You can go gather information.....you can inform someone they are trespassing...you can notify law enforcement....but you can not "instigate" a confrontation and expect a "sympathetic ear" from the grand jury on a claim of self defense.

Let law enforcement officers....enforce the law. (Or have a really "GOOD" lawyer on retainer...and pray for good luck!)

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After almost 20 years working with and in law enforcement I can say that poaching is probably the easiest crime to commit and get away with. Everyday we get calls from people that have found deer that poachers have killed. A lot of the deer that these scum kill are only missing the head and or rack. Our county is roughly the size of the state of rhode island and most of it farm and national forest with only 2 game wardens to cover the entire area. By using scanners and radios, the location of game wardens and other law enforcement is not a secret.

Getting tag numbers off vehicles and describtions of people is a big help, confronting these people usually leads to bigger problems. I know it is best to let the officers handle it, but thats not always a winning option. Maybe stiffer penalties for the people that are caught may be an answer. West Virginia just passed new penalties for bear hunting violations and that seems to have slowed that problem down a lot, the best that I can remember is: 1st offense up to 6 months in jail and loss of hunting AND fishing liscense for 1 year, 2nd up to one year in jail, loss of hunting AND fishing lisc. for 5 years (not real sure on that one) 3rd offense loss of hunting AND fishing lisc. for life and 1-5 years in state pen.

Any thoughts on stiffer penalties for deer violations?

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Taking away poachers hunting license? That doesn't seem like a penatly at all.
Here, (NC), they take your gun, vehicle, hunting/fishing license for a year, and you get 30 days in jail. That's the first offense.

Now trespassers are different. $200.00 ticket. IF CAUGHT IN THE ACT.

Only warnings if not caught in the act.