Safety rope
 

I see the videos of people using hunters safety system but how do you tie the rope at the top end of the tree using what knot and do you use the same knot at the bottom?

I conect mine around the tree with a sliding noose, and slide it up the tree as I go. I have to loosen it and tighten back down as I go, takes a little work but is very safe. Once I get to the top, I adjust it above my head and lock the stand in.
The most dangerous times in the stand is climing up and down. Some guys think it is to much of a pain, but well worth the extra work/time.

A rope attached to the tree above your head in the stand with a Prusik knot on that rope attached to your safety vest with a short rope will allow you to climb and descend from your stand in safety. I would never use a rope the way the previous poster described. Having to move a rope up a tree trunk like a lineman climbs a pole is too much of a hassle and an invitation to fall.

I wouldn't either Oldtimr, but maybe that's why he has that username from a deadly fall using that system and is now in his second life, LOL!

i understand the prusik knot but the knot to tie the main rope to the tree you know the one you tie the prusik knot to. The really long rope what kind of know is used

Rope attached to the tree is the one in question

I'm a Hunter Ed Instructor.
The Lifeline rope safety system can be purchased from Hunter Safety Systems. At one end they have installed a loop that I run the free end of the rope through to lasso the tree. It will not slip once cinched tight.



Search in YouTube
How to install a hunter safety lifeline.
There is a You Tube video How to do it from the Hunter Safety Systems staff.

Dave....JW

Once again wow. Jee I wonder why lineman would use it . Most knowledgeable climbers use the method of attaching a rope above your head and moving it up the tree as you climb and set your steps or move your climber. Once you get to the proper height if setting a permanent stand you just leave the rope and stay attached with safety rope and Prussic the rope at the top just form a loop in the working end using a figure of eight on a bite or such similar like a bowline.you make this around the standing part of the rope or pull the running end through the loop and around the tree. Snug it up and if using proper safety line it will stay tight. At the bottom you can leave loose or tie using any basic knot. You are right on born again.

Maybe because they have big leather boots with climbing spikes built into the soles to dig into the poles and hunters don't---DUH!!!

Also when u are moving up the rope make sure to keep the prussic high not low to reduce drop if you fall. You should always be tied in as bornagain states.

Actually they use it in the event the spikes slip out. Duh

Anybody ever tell you you're full of baloney and appear to be spoiling for a fight and yet you claim others on here are bad---DUH!!! How about calling a truce and getting along on here!

I've been using the ascending/descending prusik knot for quite a few years now in my hang on stands. My climbers I usually use the attachment strap to the tree. To get the stationary rope in I have used a couple of different methods. One method that I usually use the most is tie some form of weight to one end of the rope and toss the rope over the selected branch. The weight will pull the rope back down to me. I then loop one end around the other to form a choker. Just pull it back tight up to the branch and there you go. The other method is climbing and tying it in for when there are too many branches in the way for a toss. When I do it that way I use a linemans rig to climb with. I also use an anchor eye bolt designed for dirt to tie off the bottom of the rope for the prusik system.

If I was spoiling just for a fight I would have been on you way more. But in this case it's a safety issue and poor and potentially dangerous advise. As far as being full of baloney I was a fire department training captain for 8 years and trained both high and low angle rescue and cross trained with our local hydro lineman. I was using a safety line and prussic attachment well before they became the new way of hunter climbing safety aids.

And to clarify one point, they don't have boots with spikes built in to the soles Topgun3006. They are a set of braces that you put on your legs with underhooks for your feet. Part of apprenticeship many years ago included working on a linemans crew for several months. Learned very well how to operate those rigs. But to be honest, a 250+ pound man putting his trust in a little 1.5 to 2" spike to hold his big butt up on that pole takes some intestinal fortitude.

So sue me, LOL! All I know is they have spikes and I've never been close enough to see that they are put on like you stated. Thanks for that information. As far as the other member still spouting baloney, I wish you would knock it off since you say I'm one that should leave because I'm running people off. Your attitude isn't so great itself to be telling others what to do, so again I would suggest we try to get along and enjoy this site.

I have been using the method I mentioned for years. I hunt public land with a climbing stand, I never know if I will have to move my stand. ( someone beats me to the spot, or the weather...) so the attached safety climbing rope from the top of the tree will not work for me. I would have to climb the tree and undo it and then climb back down the tree.
I agree if you have a set location or lock on tree stands , that method would work best.
For that matter even a ladder stand, any time you are off the ground you should have a safety vest on.

Another very important part to this is, TAKE Your TIME! Guys get in a hurry and are rushing or decide to climb up or down without being attached to the tree, this is when most accidents happen.

This video shows the technique I use to climb the tree.
https://youtu.be/6ps8Q2EyWQk

Hey Mr Duh! the rope loop only stops you from falling if you can keep you head and jam one or both climbing spurs into the wood as you try to lean back on the rope. I don't care how many fire companies you are affiliated with. Did you ever see anyone who had their spurs kick out and slid down the pole uncontrolled? I have, several, raw chest stomach and thighs. I worked for an electric company and had many linemen friends. There is a reason they now use bucket trucks when ever a pole is accessible to a a truck. If people want to use that method thinking it is really a safety measure, it is their backside not mine, but don't try to sell it as a good safety measure, because it isn't. While there is supposed to be a safety aspect to the rope, its biggest value is allowing a lineman to work with both hands while leaning back on the rope with his spurs dug in and it allows a lineman to climb by leaning back to pull out a spur and dig it in higher on the pole without slipping down the pole. Without the spurs the rope is just a rope.

Personally I like to copy the pole climbers, they do it day after day and work on some pretty bad days too. It is be safe our your life may a disaster.





These climbing spikes are not cheap either.







My brother thought climbing down Alum steps from his stand was OK with out a harness. Spend a bunch of time in Munson Medical Center TC Michigan with a broken back. Lucky he still is alive and not crippled.




:D Al

Yooper, we aren't talking about using spurs and a rope, just a rope and a lock on stand. Big difference. I have seen tree trimmers using spurs however. Never the less, my point is a rope that is not attached to the tree is not really a safety rope when using a tree stand and if you fall, you won't have the line crew at the bottom of the tree to help you.

Good video bornagain that is pretty much the method I use. If its a permanent stand I attach the safety rope and leave it. If a climber or sticks and stand I am removing I use the tree rope and my harness !

As far as getting along I never called the giving the proper info a dead guy that had to be born again because he used the correcy method.

As for being mr duh I'm just glad I never had to work any rescues with you as a partner. We had guys we called oldtimers on the FD they called us sissies for using breathing apparatus and said you needed to be a smoke eater and have snot and corbon flowing after a fire. Well alot of those guys are dead or sick with cancer a fate I wouldn't wish on anyone. I'm glad I didn't follow their advise either !

For the guy that asked the question I hope you got your answer and use the correct method that many hear have tried to give you.

Unfortunately here sometimes you have to sift through the crap to get to the good stuff.

Yep, I hope he does sift through the crap and is smart enough to know the crap from the good advice he got from most of us. As for you Timbr, I was a fireman at 16 and was wearing scott air packs and going into smoke filled and burning buildings building when I was 16. I also was one of my company's first radiation monitors as a first responder, although we were not called first responders in the 60s. I also worked on the damage control team on my ship when I was in the navy which involves fire fighting among other things. You do not have a lock on firefighting knowledge, nor does it give you a boost in answering the OP's question, instead of getting good suggestions from those here he had to endure a couple of you muddying the water trying to impress.

Man oh man! You're the only one on this thread that actually told the guy to go with that rope like linemen use and now you come back with that post like everyone is agreeing with your use of a lineman's rope, LOL! FYI the first post I made was a joke that you obviously didn't comprehend or just felt like posting to stir up more trouble. Then you come on with baloney about other members stirring up trouble and chasing members away from the site. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, LOL! :hit: I hope this thread dies right here and I'm done, but I doubt it on the other end!

And the beat goes on. Don't worry I will eventually let you get the last word.

In fact I never told him to use a linemans rope. I said that bornagains method was a correct and safe method. Then the next post likened it to a linemans rope and said they would never use his method. Well lineman don't just use a loose rope anymore !!

I just hope the guy is tied in at all times and doesn't get hurt because some here like to hear themselves talk !!

This guy^^^ above is a spammer and has made that same post 7 times on different forums trying to sell something since he joined yesterday in violation of two site rules. The MODs have been notified that he needs to have the permaban used on him!

Knot
 

After all these no one answered the question as to what knots are used to securely tie myself to a tree

You do not tie yourself to the tree. The best way is to hook your safety harness or vest to a line attached to the tree your stand is on, then hook the short line from your vest or harness to the prusik knot tied to your drop line you tied to the tree. I would use a bowline knot to tie to the tree, it is strong and easily untied. There are other knots you could use. Read and look at this.

http://www.wideopenspaces.com/how-to...d-safety-line/

Watch that YouTube video I mentioned in s previous post. Shows you how to secure your safety rope.
Use the woven loop that is Standard with any Hunter Safety Systems life line.

Or learn how to tie a clove hitch. Google it.

JW