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gjersy 12-08-2016 07:11 PM

200 lb Doe
 
Here's a picture of a 200 lb dressed doe (conservative estimate) from this season, thats my Daughter in the picture. Anyway look how that doe dwarfs the 8 point. The biggest doe's i have previously got were around the 180-190lb mark both were weighed, this girl is bigger & she's all butchered wrapped and in the freezer.http://postimg.org/image/mejq87ndt/

rockport 12-08-2016 08:03 PM

Thats a fatty for sure.

super_hunt54 12-08-2016 08:06 PM

She sure aint been missing any meals. Was she dry?

gjersy 12-08-2016 08:15 PM

Yes superhunt she was dry, however she had a kind of fresh scar or hair knocked off on her rump that made me think that she was bred. She was a fatty 4sure, the dogs are loving all the tallow.

Bocajnala 12-08-2016 08:23 PM

How this was the fat on her? I've skinned some Ohio doe that were in the 150 range and they had fat probably 3-4" this on their hindquarters
-Jake

younggun308 12-08-2016 08:27 PM

Wow. Did you guys get to age her jawbone?

super_hunt54 12-08-2016 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by gjersy (Post 4284621)
Yes superhunt she was dry, however she had a kind of fresh scar or hair knocked off on her rump that made me think that she was bred. She was a fatty 4sure, the dogs are loving all the tallow.

Might have been, or might have been fighting with another Dom Doe. (got her ass kicked, literally :D ) Be careful not to overdo the tallow to the mutts. I goofed one year and let the rotties have at a ton of the stuff and, putting it nicely, yard cleanup wasn't fun at ALL :nonono2:

gjersy 12-08-2016 08:57 PM

The tallow was thick on her rump maybe around 2 inches Bocajnala? Way more than the bucks I got this year. There's a 5 gallon bucket full of tallow, I only give the dogs a chunk of tallow per day with there food. I still have the lower jaw maybe i should age her younggun.

Bocajnala 12-08-2016 11:35 PM

Some years they have very little fat and some years allot. I don't know what the difference is. I've cut up four so far this year and none have had much fat... But sometimes you get one thats covered in it.
-Jake

Champlain Islander 12-09-2016 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4284630)
Might have been, or might have been fighting with another Dom Doe. (got her ass kicked, literally :D ) Be careful not to overdo the tallow to the mutts. I goofed one year and let the rotties have at a ton of the stuff and, putting it nicely, yard cleanup wasn't fun at ALL :nonono2:

Reminds me of a fish fry we had on the beach. After we finished we all went up to the house to have some desert and to visit. I said I would clean up the propane fryer later. My daughters dog got into the oil after it cooled and then sheepishly came up to the house with volcanic eruptions out both ends. That poor mutt suffered for a couple hours but luckily never got into the house.

Beautiful doe.

rockport 12-09-2016 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by Bocajnala (Post 4284634)
Some years they have very little fat and some years allot. I don't know what the difference is. I've cut up four so far this year and none have had much fat... But sometimes you get one thats covered in it.
-Jake

May be the timing of the rut in relation to your season and/or depend on acorn crop and previous winter

Rob in VT 12-09-2016 07:18 AM

Wow that's a big one for sure. Did you ever weigh her for an accurate weight?

Father Forkhorn 12-09-2016 01:15 PM

double post and clarified below

Father Forkhorn 12-09-2016 01:16 PM

Huge doe. The biggest I've heard of was one that dressed at 190 lbs. I saw it in a picture and the photo was like that--so large you could tell it was monstrous.

gjersy 12-09-2016 01:39 PM

I did not weigh her Rob, thats just an estimate, from me and several other hunters? When we used to take them to DNR stations to register, i weighed lots of deer on the scale and the biggest 2 does off my property were around 185 & 190lb dressed mark.

Oldtimr 12-09-2016 01:41 PM

I have killed two doe that were around the 200 mark and the one in the picture is definitely in that ball park.

gjersy 12-09-2016 05:49 PM

Ya i promise that Doe is prolly pretty big? But you guys decide?

Champlain Islander 12-10-2016 07:13 AM

My personal best doe was a 160 fully dressed on a state inspected scale. She was a tanker but nothing like that one gjersy. Throw a modest rack on her and she would be a trophy buck most anywhere. I wonder how old she was? Once my brother got a 130 pound Vt doe that was going downhill and was aged at 9 1/2 by a biologist.

Bocajnala 12-10-2016 07:07 PM

Is there someone you can send teeth to in order to get deer aged? Does that cost money? Would be good to know in case I ever shoot an old looking one.
-Jake

Father Forkhorn 12-11-2016 02:34 AM

I still say the most underrated things in deer hunting is taking an old lead doe. We talk about cagey big bucks and all that, but a lead doe is inevitably one smart cookie.

younggun308 12-11-2016 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Bocajnala (Post 4284959)
Is there someone you can send teeth to in order to get deer aged? Does that cost money? Would be good to know in case I ever shoot an old looking one.
-Jake

My impression was that one can judge by looking at the degree of wear on the teeth; I do not know if they make charts for these sorts of things online---but no, I doubt you need to send it somewhere for carbon dating. ;)

super_hunt54 12-11-2016 10:27 AM

lmao@ "carbon dating" That was funny!! No younggun I don't think Jake meant trying CD. He was meaning having the jaw aged by Biologists using teeth wear and jaw size. Kind of like rings on a tree, the jaw of a whitetail can be aged to a fairly close accuracy of within a few months.

Oldtimr 12-11-2016 10:51 AM

They use tooth wear for the most part and on very young deer if all they have is the jaw bone, which teeth have erupted. However, it is a little more complicated than just the tooth wear and the amount of dentin exposed, they would have to know where the deer came from, sandy soil erodes the teeth faster than clay or loamy soil. I used to have a chart that gave examples of wear and age with pictures of jawbones, I no longer have it. Each year in PA, teams of biologists and biology techs go around to cooperating butcher shops and age the deer heads before they are sent to the rendering plant to get a pretty good idea of the make up of the herd ages. I haven't tried but I would bet you could find such a chart on google find.

younggun308 12-11-2016 02:26 PM

Here's one that goes as far as 5 years in the South Carolina herd, profiling the side of the jaw:
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/deer/pdf/deerjaw.pdf

This Indiana site has some good shots from above the teeth that give lots of details on tooth wear:
http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/2739.htm

rockport 12-11-2016 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Father Forkhorn (Post 4284981)
I still say the most underrated things in deer hunting is taking an old lead doe. We talk about cagey big bucks and all that, but a lead doe is inevitably one smart cookie.

Very different animals for sure.

WV Hunter 12-13-2016 02:12 AM

That is a whopper. Congrats! She's 1.5x bigger than the mature bucks where I hunt, and 2x our big does. QDM site has some good info on aging also. Its not that hard to look at it and get close. If you want absolute, you need to send it off. I've never done that, I just go by the wear.


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