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Had this happen to a friend of mine last Monday morning, he was posted in a drainage ditch, about 40 yards from ridge to ridge, he had been sitting at his spot all morning when someone walked up the drainage and posted just 30 yards away from him, what would you have done? my friend asked the guy to leave, and the other guy responded by saying " this is public land, and I have every right to be here just like you" How would you handle this situation?

Dr. Mike

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If I had spent countless hours searching the area over to find a great spot or hunting a specific deer, I would probably leave and hope I could hunt that spot/animal at a later date. That being said, if another hunter just bounded in, I doubt there was much painstaking time spent in search of " the" spot or animal.

Sooo, I would probably go back to my stand for an hour or so and cough;), in a yelling tone ask him if he has seen anything yet;), pee off the front of my stand:D, beat the mud off my boots against the tree[:-], fake some sneezes[8D], break the twigs hanging around me and throw them to the nearest clump of dry leaves:) and for good measure call his dog a filthy, flea bidden mongrel and curse him as a mutt[:o]. If that doesn' t pI$$ him off enough to leave, I would leave and find another corner of public land to hunt in cause I don' t want to be around someone that thick headed or inconsiderate[>:]!

But that is just me. I think it is sad that there are people that shameless to invade someone elses area. I mean, I wouldn' t do such not only because I don' t want to be mean, but do you know how hard it is for not just one, but two hunters not to spook an incoming deer? What chances does he think he has of seeing deer. Lazy hunters like that shouldn' t be in the woods, they should be home enjoying a spectator sport!

I' ve ranted enough, I' ll let the next person take over.

Josh

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Unfortunatley I would have left. If the other guy could not understand the reasoning for being asked to find another spot or leaving it just would not be worth the time to stay there.

One thing would lead to another. Its a shame that the other hunter would not politly remove thier self from the area.

But, may be ther other guy had his eye on the location as well and was just as surprized to see your friend. Still in this case I would have left the area and found another spot.

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I would start singing at the top of my lungs. Or maybe start taking a loud boom box and when someone pulled that I would put on the most obnoxious rap that I could find.

But since I hunt on a lease I would have him arrested for tresspassing.

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If it was a new spot for me, I' d leave and look for another spot. If it was an old haunt I hunted over several years, then ...I like pyral' s advice. Sneeze, fart, cough, whatever....If both guys scouted and picked the same spot, the " late comer" losses out. Kinda like a lot of hunting clubs on opening weekend. The early bird (or least hung over) gets the worm. If he was lazy, then make him regret setting up next to you.

If you wanted to be a real bastard, you could always shoot at the ground and yell out to the guy if he saw where the " deer" went.

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I would strip naked and do a indian dance right past him

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I would have just left.

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Have you considered the possibility that this may not actually have been a hunter?
I don' t know what extremes the antis will go to but the possibility exists that this guy was/is an anti just breaking your friends shoes. If he shows up again it might be interesting to find out just how much of a hunter he really is. We know already he certainly isn' t one we would like to know better.

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This tale reminds me of a public spot that I like to hunt during Firearm season because it doesn' t get too much pressure . Every year another fella and I try to get to the main access point before the other one does . Sometimes he gets there first , and sometimes I do . Whoever gets there first invariably blocks the access road with their vehicle . I never actually saw him , but I could tell when he had been there even when I didn' t see his truck .

One time I got there and saw his truck parked , but this time there was room for two . I entered the woods and walked toward a favorite spot as quietly as possible . As I was approaching the area that I intended to hunt I suddeny caught a glimpse of orange in a tree about 100 yards away , it was my rival . The property is 395 acres of prime woods , but the remaining access points always have more guys in them than I care to hunt with , mostly because they have " bad habits" .

I was faced with an unpalatable choice , keep going and blow his set up , or go somewhere else . At that end of the property the good spots are very limited , and it would be nearly impossible to set up without blowing it for him . I decided to leave the woods and go to another place rather than ruin his hunt , and possibly mine as well . Later , I stopped into a local tavern to reflect on the disappointing day that I' d had having gotten totally skunked .

The bar was nearly deserted since most of the clientel were out hunting , but there was a guy at one of the stools . I took the stool next to him and sat down . I hate to drink alone , and his mug was empty , so I asked if he would like a refill . He said " Sure." As we sat I struck up a conversation about the day that I' d had out in the wooods , and he said that he' d had a pretty good day , and had just come back from checking in a nice 6 pointer .

I asked where he had been hunting and he replied " A little public over in Pilot Knob" . There aren' t many such places there so I asked which one . When he told me I said that I had started to hunt there , but left when I saw a guy up in a tree so that I wouldn' t spoil his hunt . He looked at me with wide eyes and said " Was that you I saw coming in and then leaving?" I said that I didn' t know because I didn' t know where he had been . When he told me where my jaw dropped , it was my " rival" !

He then asked why I had left , and I said " Because you were there first" . I then proceeded to congratulate him on his success that day , and he thanked me for being a good sport about it , and bought the rest of the rounds until he left . I' ve come to think of that day as my feel good hunting story , I could have stayed , but it wouldn' t have felt right .

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I wouldn' t stick around with another hunter near me, regardless if i was their first. Asking a guy like this to carry on is pointless, if he ain' t got the brains to keep moving..well enough said. I would have handled this situation with some TP and tree UPWIND;)

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I would have just left. Making as much noise as I could. Why cant some people have respect.

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.....****SHUDDER!!!!*****........

That' d work for me!

Seriously though I' ve had that happen and I just yell out, " Hi there! I don' t suppose you could find some other place to hunt?" and if he' s a jerk just keep talking to him in a loud voice every minute or two. Eventually they always leave. I' m not going to share 30 yards of space with some idiot so if he' s going to sit there I' m going to make sure neither of us sees an animal the entire time.

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I would have left, but I would have taken a couple of shots at imaginary coyotes before doing so.

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Similar thing happened last year to me. I was in a tree for about an hour and a half when a guy came up and sat down on a fallen tree. I wistled at him. He looked and said...." I' ve been hunting here all season, I' M SITTING HERE" . I said " you gotta be kidding me" . He just said TOO DAMN BAD. I called him an A-HOLE, and he told me to come on down and say it to his face....I did!!!!!

Upon climbing down the guy realized I' m a larger person and just said whatever. I moved on my way.

Looking back, I would have just shut my mouth and moved. I ended up moving anyway. As much as I wanted to kick his _ _ _ I held back. It was killing me the rest of the evening. Some people are just ignorant. This happened public land in MI. In IL this can' t happen. We have to sign into an area. I think it' s a nice setup and it keeps people from getting ino tiffs with each other.


J

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the same thing happened to me and to of my cousins in Ga. a few years back.

we were there well befor first light.about a hr. later a guy comes by me,I whisle and he walks up,I tell him there are two other guys on this ridge.he walks away toward Buddy,and in about 5 min I hear a shot.I see orange going through the trees back the way the guy came from.:D
Later on we get back together Buddy,Bermon,and myslef.it seems the guy get to where Buddy was and he told him the same thing I did.the guy walks anout 50 yards ahead of Buddy and sets down against a big pine tree.well Buddy is hot by now,he picks a tree about 15 yards ahead of the guy and 15 yards to one side and blasted the bark off and hollered shot him he' s a big one...........needless to say the guy left in a hurry.[:o]

in your friends case I would do the same;start shooting and holler shot him;which way did he go;all the while I would be like CD said naked.[:o]:D:D

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LOL, thats probably what I would do, but since we hunt National Forest Land, ya its public, Most of the people that hunt where we do, know where everyone has a stand and most of the people respect those spots !! It seems to have worked well for the last 20 some years where we hunt.

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It is a shame that we have idiots like that to cope with! As one has said, he could have been an anti that just wanted to ruin someones hunt, or just a plain old rude idiot, claiming his " right" to public land! If the spot was really that great of a spot, I guess I' d have to leave, hoping for another day, otherwise I' d stay and make sure that neither of us would see any animals the rest of the day!
Because of idiots like this, I decided long ago that I would only hunt on private land or leased land! With all these idiots on public land it is a wonder we don' t have more hunting accidents than we do!

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I hate it when somebody is within 10 acres of me, just don' t know what I would do if they sat right in front of me[:@]

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i hate when that happens. people just dont give a care about anyone, but theirselves. good to hear your story turned out, kevin1. i probably would have found another spot, it not worth the trouble

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I' d put blanks in my 7mm and fire in his general direction, followed by a " Oh my goodness, I' m so sorry!" [>:]

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I wouldn' t leave, and I' d make sure that the other guy wouldn' t see anything, either![>:]

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Well than I guess he wouldn' t mind you sitting next to him, tell him you were glad he came by as you needed someone to talk to.:D

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I probably would have put my nose to the wind and headed directly that way. probably would have stopped and pissed all over a bush or tree just out of sight. there is nothing better that a stand down wind of the bathroom. ;)
I just can' t belive some people[:@]

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I would have left..................and fired one round at a distant stump just to make sure my scope was on.;) Some peoples rudeness amazes me sometimes.

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Unfortunately, my type A personality would not have allowed me to walk away quietly. :D:D

No one in that area would have seen a deer that morning!

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I have to agree with everyone else, I would have left too, but I tell you no one for miles would have seen any critters let alone any deer. I would have yelled, farted, sneezed, anything to ruin his day in the woods. maybe even put a 125gr. muzzy in the tree next to him, then say ooops,, sorry diddn' t see ya-

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I don' t know what I would have done in a situation like that. Now days it just ain' t worth it because you don' t know who will shoot you and who won' t,especially in an argument.

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I would have went over and sat right down beside him ,just to see what was going on,then find out in a nice way if he had permision to be here,if is is public ground he has a right as much as you do, but always be conciderate, and nice, better to catch flies with honey than vinager.

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I would have walked to within a few feet of this clown, taken a good pee, informed him that it is public land and I can pee where ever I want, and left to hunt elsewhere.

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I would have not left very quietly, i' ve had that happen to me a few diferent times.people just no sence of curtousy. Last fall i was invited to hunt with my neighbor and his son and nephew. i accepted (of course-didnt want to say no)to go, with set time and place already in place, morning came and by the time i got there @6:00 only one was there, joe-his son- had said that the others had already left ,we were on our own... me not exactly knowing where the others went i chose to go where there were no foot prints (just to be safe), i walked for about 1/2 hour and came across a very nice little spot, a small clearing of about 75 yds wide, sat down and waited, see a couple of does come through and thought -cool wait and see whats next--well low and behold the next thing was two of the guys i was hunting with--very dissapointed...later in the evening one said ' i thought i saw something over there' .... yup it was me. never did see any more that day...bummer..

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That is just a sad state of affairs. i am glad that i have my own property. i really do not know how i would handle it. i am sure that there would not be a deer anywhere close to us when the situation was over. We are all supposed to be on the same team against mother nature here arn' t we. isn' t it amazing to se how some poeple never grow up at all! just sad!!![:' (]

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you' re killin me bucksbuddy! lmao

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I' m amazed nobody has mentioned the obvious solution.

Shoot him in the leg, slash the tires on his truck, burn his house down, sleep with his wife, sister & mother and then maybe go back and beat the hell out of him.

I am under great stress, and have agression issues. I hunt to relax. He should know better than to mess with a mans recreation.

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It is a sad fact of life that some people feel because they have a right to something there entitled to use it no matter the effects it has on others. Yes they have the right but it' s not always ethical. I have found it is a mute point to try and reason with this kind of person. For they have no ethics, only rights.

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I would have definately left. This guy is dangerous and you' re a lot better off to get away from him as soon as possible. I' ve been in the same situation before and it is a very uneasy feeling being around someone like that. Be careful out there and good luck to you.

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i would have walked a** naked past him flicked him off and if he did the same i would have told him to stick it up his A** and walk on his elbows[8D]

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I' ve been hunting public land 20+ years and have only had something similar happen 1-2 times max. Most recent was 5-6 years ago in the Francis Marion Forest. I lived 25 miles from where a buddy and I was hunting but we took seperate trucks and parked at a pull in. Sorta thought 2 trucks parked there would discourage others from walking in on us.
Around about 10:00 am I see this dude coming thru the woods, the only way into this area was right by our trucks. Here he comes, closer....., closer........, I ease my 30-06 over and fire a round off to the side and that sucker damn near crapped his pants. He looked up at me in my climber and I put a finger to my lips and said," Shhhhhhhhh" He got all pissed off and left the way he came.
I was telling my buddy about it later that morning and he tells me he saw the same dude before he got to me. My buddy was in his climber when the dude comes in on him and proceeds to take a dump about 40 yards from my buddy' s stand. Joe yells at him to get the h*ll out of there, instead of heading back out to the road he comes on into my stand and I.........