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I seemed to have upset a few people on here with my last post. If I did then I accomplished my purpose and will standby every word I have posted. I do notice that some who replied just proved my point as they further disparaged and attempted to demean younger hunters for using modern technolgy. Some will remain in the past and wonder why the world left them behind as their opinion is the only right one. By the way I passed 60 several years ago. 20 of those years traveling the world in Uncle Sam's canoe club. After all not all of us seem to be oetmitted to post a differing opinion.
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Originally Posted by vapahunter
(Post 4226037)
I seemed to have upset a few people on here with my last post. If I did then I accomplished my purpose and will standby every word I have posted. I do notice that some who replied just proved my point as they further disparaged and attempted to demean younger hunters for using modern technolgy. Some will remain in the past and wonder why the world left them behind as their opinion is the only right one. By the way I passed 60 several years ago. 20 of those years traveling the world in Uncle Sam's canoe club. After all not all of us seem to be oetmitted to post a differing opinion.
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Originally Posted by alleyyooper
(Post 4225930)
That is so funny us old people teaching young people out door skills.
My grand daughter came to spend a week with gramps and grams. She was so glued to her smart phone and its need to be hooked to the charger it was hard to get her out of the house for a little trip around the lake in a canoe. Ya that was the extent of our out doors together. Yet I walked the dog every morning thru the woods for an hour and again every evening. She had to keep checking her face book, twitter, e mail, text and all the apps she had on her phone. If you said some thing to her she would reply what did you say because she was so engrossed in her phone. I even phoned her and she got upset because it was a voice call. :D Al |
Originally Posted by Oldtimr
(Post 4225674)
Hunting app! Is that what we have reduced hunting to, an app on an electronic devise! How about we learn orientating skills so we can navigate in the woods without some battery operated device? The battery doesn't go dead in our brains but if all you have to navigate in the woods to find your way in and out is some stupid app, sooner or later you will regret you didn't learn outdoor skills instead of depending on a device. It would appear this is the age where we surrender our learned skills to some damn machine!
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks." Daniel Boone |
Originally Posted by Topgun 3006
(Post 4226039)
Go ahead and stand by your posts, but your lack of reading comprehension is obviously keeping you from understanding what is being stated by several of us and the last posts CI and I put up should have been able to be understood by any adult that can read the English language! None of us has said that modern technology is bad. What we have stated and that you can't grasp is that people of all ages still need to know how to use the old time methods in case something happens to that modern technology many are relying on because if it quits functioning I will say for the second time that it may cost them their life in certain serious situations.
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Originally Posted by turkey harvester
(Post 4225875)
Well put!!! Old people can't get used to the new wave of technology.
I prefer the old ways and have no desire to use the "modern" technology when I hunt. As always, feel free to disagree if you wish. |
And that is the point of my rant!
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I think we are viewed as a bunch of grumpy old men. For the record...I am seldom grumpy but the old I can't change. :lmao:
To make Flags point...modern technology being electrical/ mechanical can fail but woodsmanship has no moving parts to fail and is reliable. |
I really don't care if I am viewed that way. The dependence on electronics to do and think for us and do do things we should really know how to do ourselves is going to result in a society that doesn't know how to think. We already have it now. Many young people do not know how to add, subtract or multiply in their heads or how to make change without a machine doing it for them. Why, they use calculators in school math classes and on tests now. Don't believe me, just go to a fast food joint or a super market and have the computerized register go down. We are on our way to a helpless society and if the lights go out, those who have old school skills will be in demand and also have a good laugh.
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To diverge from the argument of whether or not we should rely on technology in hunting, I'll just give a review of the Smarter Hunter app since that was the original topic of the thread. I recently downloaded the app and have found it quite useful in terms of unifying features and having one "go-to" source for information while on the hunt.
Some of the big draws to this app for me was the ability to save information regarding hunts and areas around where I was hunting. I can mark on my phone where I find markings or tracks, and using the augmented reality (or simply the map) I can find where they were. This feature is very useful, and allows me to quickly return to an area where I had found trackings so I could set up a stand, camera, etc (not to mention you can make notes on the map private so you can ensure that it's you who gets the kill haha). Augmented reality can drain the battery a bit, so I end up favoring the top down view in most cases. Hunting at a reserve or camp with multiple members always involves careful coordination, and the app allows members to view each other's locations while on the hunt. This is obviously a huge bonus in regards to safety, and allows you to know when you're in close proximity to another hunter. The interface uses standard Google Maps themes and icons, and is pretty easy to understand. The layout is not cluttered and you can choose which icons you want to have enabled on your map, making finding specific notes easy. The touch screen controls are easy and responsive. I never felt confused or lost in the menu, so no complaints there. Overall I'd say Smarter Hunter is a great way to store information and know the whereabouts of other hunters. I enjoy being able to interact with the property map and keep the records of previous hunts in the same place. The app is to use and accessible, so I highly recommend this to those looking to augment their hunting experience a bit. And to those on the fence- the app is free so why not give it a try for yourself? |
I am using the Smarterhunter app now and it is performing as advertised. With my group, we like the ability to log in, monitor locations, the proximity alerts and the tracking of data. the in-app chat feature is nice when you need to communicate with the entire group.
I still carry my compass! |
If only there were an app, that would make someone a smarter hunter!!
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Originally Posted by karli
(Post 4335900)
If only there were an app, that would make someone a smarter hunter!!
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander
(Post 4225931)
So I think we are all in agreement that technology isn't the enemy. Coupling that with practical experience and common sense makes for a better mousetrap. Some people embrace change while others don't. I guess if this thread accomplishes anything it will be to give people unacquainted with the old school basics a hint that they should learn about them just in case the technology fails. Dead batteries or falling and breaking the unit whether it is a GPS or smart phone could prove disastrous especially when one is in a wilderness or big woods setting and a storm hits blocking out reference to the sun. On the flip side for those who hold onto the old ways change often comes hard. Trying something new might open some new opportunity and enhance the experience. When we first started our cross country elk hunting trips we relied on an atlas with mixed success. Along came the garmin and life got much easier. But....we still keep the atlas in the map pocket behind the seat.
When the GPS stuff first came out, I thought cool, and bought one. Tried it on the U.P. Nothing. Turns out it can't see the satellites through the trees. Put it away and haven't seen it since. For all I know, the technology may have improved though. sachiko had to take the hunter safety course to get her license. I took it with her for snicks. In one of the classes, they had us form teams of two. She and I were a team of course. They issued each team a map and a lensatic compass. You had to navigate (navigate?) through the woods from point A to point B to point C and back to point A. No technology allowed. They explained that a phone or GPS is a fine and dandy thing, but batteries can go dead, ;and chips can die, and electronics can get wet. And then how are you gonna find your way back? I didn't help sachiko, by the way. But she completed the task way ahead of everyone else. |
Our shooting days will be over soon. We're still planning to "hunt." But we'll just have to buy our meat on the way home.:rolleye0011:
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Originally Posted by cr422
(Post 4335983)
Our shooting days will be over soon. We're still planning to "hunt." But we'll just have to buy our meat on the way home.:rolleye0011:
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander
(Post 4336010)
isn't Kobe Beef big over there? I suspect you guys will be eating a lot of fish. Both Mrs. CI and I enjoy shooting our handguns out in the back 40 away from the houses. The sound bothers our old dog so we don't do it on our property but go up on some private land I have permission to hunt. I would miss shooting and hunting but do think it would be cool to visit Japan but I doubt I could live anywhere "happily"other than here on the Island.
The girls can walk to school - same school all the way through high school. It's one of the schools that enables you to go to university. They had to be tested to be admitted. Grandma thought of everything. We're extremely grateful to her for everything she has done. You can believe that I will be getting into fishing.. |
Originally Posted by Champlain Islander
(Post 4336010)
isn't Kobe Beef big over there? I suspect you guys will be eating a lot of fish. Both Mrs. CI and I enjoy shooting our handguns out in the back 40 away from the houses. The sound bothers our old dog so we don't do it on our property but go up on some private land I have permission to hunt. I would miss shooting and hunting but do think it would be cool to visit Japan but I doubt I could live anywhere "happily"other than here on the Island.
The girls can walk to school - same school all the way through high school. It's one of the schools that enables you to go to university. They had to be tested to be admitted. Grandma thought of everything. We're extremely grateful to her for everything she has done. You can believe that I will be getting into fishing.. |
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