Shooting from an elevated position ?
#1
Fork Horn
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Shooting from an elevated position ?
Taking aim on whitetails from 10 to 15 feet from the ground out to 200 yards , at those heights do you aim a little lower than normal ? (With a rifle )
Thanks......
Thanks......
Last edited by White Oak 06; 12-21-2014 at 04:59 AM.
#7
Typical Buck
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Location: Northern WI
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At that range, you are at about 1.15 degrees elevation, which is probably a lot less change in elevation that most typical shots at closer range with even very small hills.
Here is the trigonometry: tangent (1.15 degrees) = 4 yds / 200 yds = opposite/adjacent
Here is the trigonometry: tangent (1.15 degrees) = 4 yds / 200 yds = opposite/adjacent
Last edited by MZS; 12-23-2014 at 04:53 AM.
#8
A couple of the primary stands I hunt have their rests 14-15' off the ground. Feeders at the stands are 45, 85, and 100 yards. No POA correction necessary for POI. Whatever difference that occurs is inside of normal group sizes and so is unrecognizable.
#10
Unless you're shooting up or down a mountainside, elevation angulation doesn't affect the ToF enough to make enough difference to worry about for hunting.
There are a lot of variables that figure into the geometry of angular shooting, but the simplified version is to simply multiply the line of sight measured range by the cosine of the angle (line of sight = hypotenuse, not "opposite"), hence why a lot of long range shooters use cosine angle indicators on the side of their rifles. For example, if you rangefind a deer at 400yrds, but it's 45degrees down a mountain side, it's actually only 283yrds away: cosine(45) = x/400, 400*cos(45) = 283yrds (cos(45) = .707).
If you're on flat land, then the time of flight difference when shooting at high angle close shots, the angular deviation (moa shift) won't be enough to matter. When shooting long shots, the deviation is too small such that the cosine of the angle will almost 1, so the degree of hold will be negligible.
Angle only matters in the hills.
There are a lot of variables that figure into the geometry of angular shooting, but the simplified version is to simply multiply the line of sight measured range by the cosine of the angle (line of sight = hypotenuse, not "opposite"), hence why a lot of long range shooters use cosine angle indicators on the side of their rifles. For example, if you rangefind a deer at 400yrds, but it's 45degrees down a mountain side, it's actually only 283yrds away: cosine(45) = x/400, 400*cos(45) = 283yrds (cos(45) = .707).
If you're on flat land, then the time of flight difference when shooting at high angle close shots, the angular deviation (moa shift) won't be enough to matter. When shooting long shots, the deviation is too small such that the cosine of the angle will almost 1, so the degree of hold will be negligible.
Angle only matters in the hills.