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I heard it more than once, that the 30-06 is the worst cartridge based on the 30-06 cartridge
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
(Post 4177128)
whats that tell ya? Is it ever gonna dawn on you that everyone knows that 99.9% of your posts are for the soul purpose of increasing your post count whether you know what your talking about or not?
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Originally Posted by jerry d
(Post 4177136)
I heard it more than once, that the 30-06 is the worst cartridge based on the 30-06 cartridge
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Originally Posted by nchawkeye
(Post 4177116)
Jack of all Trades, master of none....
One reason the '06 was so popular in the last century is because so many carried them in WW-II, there is nothing magical about it... |
Originally Posted by Topgun 3006
(Post 4177141)
That makes about as much sense as saying OBozo is the best President ever, LOL!
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Originally Posted by jerry d
(Post 4177144)
Not really, when you look at BC ratio to weight the 06 compared to the 270 & 280 the 06 is lacking.
Not everybody wants to shoot real long range. The 30-06 has killed for decades, and will continue to do so long into the future. |
I thought the OP was taking about neck shots........................?
Did he say with a .30-06 or at long range ?? Back on topic please ! |
Neck shots have been answered. A thread can have more than one topic. Can't you multi-task?
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 4177147)
Neck shots have been answered. A thread can have more than one topic. Can't you multi-task?
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Neck shots will never be answered until it's your turn ........... I think ?
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Originally Posted by Sheridan
(Post 4177150)
Neck shots will never be answered until it's your turn ........... I think ?
Not sure you were asking me, but there's my answer anyway. |
Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 4177152)
My stance is i'd never take a neck shot. If I can't take a double lung shot I consider it as having no shot. I'm not bothered by passing up shots.
Not sure you were asking me, but there's my answer anyway. |
Will take and have taken neck shots. All the deer I shot in the neck dropped and never got improved had to cut one's juggler or take another killing shot. Only took a handful but if it's the shot and I got a good steady rest I will take it.
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I didn't know it would turn into a pissing contest. .270, 30-06, .308, .280, 7mm-08 ( I can keep going) all are great rounds. I just prefer the .270 because of the trajectory. I killed many deer with the 30-06 and it is a great round to. Nothing special but it gets the job down and has for many years. I was just saying a bigger cartridge won't make up for a bad shot.
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Originally Posted by Brandon_SPC
(Post 4177173)
I didn't know it would turn into a pissing contest. .270, 30-06, .308, .280, 7mm-08 ( I can keep going) all are great rounds. I just prefer the .270 because of the trajectory. I killed many deer with the 30-06 and it is a great round to. Nothing special but it gets the job down and has for many years. I was just saying a bigger cartridge won't make up for a bad shot.
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totally depends on each situation. one time I won't , next time I might. just depends on how confident I am of makeing the shot
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Originally Posted by nchawkeye
(Post 4177116)
Jack of all Trades, master of none....
One reason the '06 was so popular in the last century is because so many carried them in WW-II, there is nothing magical about it... Neck shots? This seems to be a popular subject these days. They work very well. ATB |
I go for lung/heart shots, Neck shots are to chancy for me, plus crock-pot neck roasts our my family's favorite roast!
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I would also lean toward the double lung shot, my 7mm liquifies the lungs. I do practice the stated position of keeping options open. I have taken one neck shot, the buck was moving through a timbered swamp and stopped 65 yards in front of me. If the deer turned and walked away I would never see it again,when I centered the scope on the head turned toward me I could see the white patch on the neck/throat. I squeezed and the 165 lb 8 point flipped in the air landing on its back ready to be field dressed. The key is taking a shot you have confidence in making!
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Worked with a guy who said he only took neck shots with his bow because he didn't want to waste meat... I still laugh about that knucklehead
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Originally Posted by Mr. Longbeard
(Post 4177818)
Worked with a guy who said he only took neck shots with his bow because he didn't want to waste meat... I still laugh about that knucklehead
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Originally Posted by Topgun 3006
(Post 4177824)
Another one of those "you can't fix stupid" people!!!
ATB |
Originally Posted by Mickey Finn
(Post 4177846)
You're getting kind of boring. Do you make it a habit of insulting every Hunter who doesn't do it your way?
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Originally Posted by Brandon_SPC
(Post 4176993)
Only time I use a neck shot is if I am dispatching a buck on a bad shot I made. I also won't aim for high shoulder. One example a shot a 6 point yesterday evening at 202 yards and hit him high in the shoulder. He dropped in his tracks and what I though was DRT wasn't he was still alive crawling to the ditch on his front hooves. I went to shoot a second time but he rolled in the ditch. Of course had to get down run down there and shot him in the back of the neck with my .270. On that deer I hit high shoulder and spine.
Your absolutely right. Deer that drop right there more times than not don't die any quicker than the ones that run 100 yards from my experience. I personally shoot right behind the shoulder with a gun and about halfway between the shoulder and liver with a bow to give myself a little more room for error on the shoulder side. |
Originally Posted by rockport
(Post 4177860)
Out of sight out of mind.
Your absolutely right. Deer that drop right there more times than not don't die any quicker than the ones that run 100 yards from my experience. I personally shoot right behind the shoulder with a gun and about halfway between the shoulder and liver with a bow to give myself a little more room for error on the shoulder side. Not always the best choice but something to think about. |
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Originally Posted by Topgun 3006
(Post 4177856)
In the case of what he mentioned about the guy shooting a deer intentionally in the neck with archery equipment the answer every time would be yep! There is not much difference in calling the guy a knucklehead and what I did, especially when it doesn't even involve a site member. PS: You can always use the Ignore feature if you don't want to hear the truth!
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Tell that to this one that got shot by a stupid idiot! Now go take a hike because this is the kind of crap that eats at me when people hunt that don't know what they're doing!
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Looks like Photoshop to me. I would not take a neck shot with a bow, but have and will probably do so in the future with a rifle. Yes a larger caliber rifle does not make up for a bad shot but it does help if you do screw up a little. I also think you should use the biggest gun you are most comfortable with and shot the most accurately.
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Originally Posted by Bbj270
(Post 4177880)
Looks like Photoshop to me. I would not take a neck shot with a bow, but have and will probably do so in the future with a rifle. Yes a larger caliber rifle does not make up for a bad shot but it does help if you do screw up a little. I also think you should use the biggest gun you are most comfortable with and shot the most accurately.
This is not Photoshop. Can we just agree to disagree, and go on to something else? And drop this subject Thank You. jrbsr |
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Originally Posted by Bbj270
(Post 4177880)
Looks like Photoshop to me. I would not take a neck shot with a bow, but have and will probably do so in the future with a rifle. Yes a larger caliber rifle does not make up for a bad shot but it does help if you do screw up a little. I also think you should use the biggest gun you are most comfortable with and shot the most accurately.
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Originally Posted by Mickey Finn
(Post 4177863)
Depending on whether your on the ground or close to it. You can do very well placing your arrow at the base of the neck where the great vessels run. My Rage heads leave a blood trail like an interstate. It's the same for a rifle. I guess some think only of the cervical spine when they think neck shot.
Not always the best choice but something to think about. |
Originally Posted by rockport
(Post 4177902)
Different perspective I guess. There is an artery in the ass that will kill them quickly as well but call me boring I like to take shots that will serve me best over a 40 year hunting career and to me that is a simple fixed broad head through the lungs. Anything else seems like reinventing the wheel to me.
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Originally Posted by rockport
(Post 4177902)
Different perspective I guess. There is an artery in the ass that will kill them quickly as well but call me boring I like to take shots that will serve me best over a 40 year hunting career and to me that is a simple fixed broad head through the lungs. Anything else seems like reinventing the wheel to me.
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Originally Posted by Topgun 3006
(Post 4177906)
That would be the femoral artery and anyone that would shoot at that probably would also take very risky shots at the neck too! I like your "simple fixed broadhead through the lungs" philosophy and that's what archery is all about for as close to a 100% sure kill every time.
I can hit a lung size target 100 times in a row at 20 yards and my broadhead will work every time. I don't get to decide what others are capable of but I don't believe many people/mechanical broadheads can be trusted to do that. |
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