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Huntador 10-12-2012 10:57 AM

New here, want to hunt
 
Hello everybody. This is my first thread/post.

In a few days, I'm going to take my state's mandatory hunting education course, which will then enable me to have a hunting license. The course will involve firearms safety and it will also include shooting w/ a shotgun.

I have no hunting experience. I do not come from a family of outdoorsmen. And I accept the fact that getting even one deer this season may be a big accomplishment. Still, I am intrigued by hunting, want to learn what I consider a traditional manly skill, and frankly, want to eat venison.

So here are my questions.
1. Other than, say, cameo clothing, a shotgun, a knife for dressing, what other equipment will I absolutely need? I speculate I may have to buy one of those bright orange vests so that other hunters may see me.
2. I'm thinking of buying a portable heater (that uses propane; I assume that even with proper clothing, it'll be nice to have a heater as I will be outside in colder weather). Yay or nay for bringing heaters while hunting?
3. How difficult is it to dress a deer?
4. The average deer you guys have hunted - if counting only meals for one average-sized male adult, how much meat does each hunted animal yield (how many meals)?

elmoughler 10-12-2012 11:09 AM

1. Only necessity is a weapon and a way to dress the animal. I have camo for bow season but once it gets cold out I usually just wear my brown carharts with no trouble. You may also want to invest in a treestand.
2. Why on earth would you take a heater to the woods with you. If you dont like the cold you shouldn't be deer hunting IMO
3. Field dressing a deer is very simple, there are many how to videos out there to help you out.
4. As far as meat it just depends on the size of the deer. From my deer last year that dressed aprox 120lbs after processing I ended up with 4 Roasts, backstraps and aprox 30lbs of burger, give or take a few lbs (can't remember exact amount)

Terasec 10-12-2012 11:34 AM

welcome,
as eager as you are to get out and hunt
first, slow down,
just getting your hunter ed, and new to hunting
i would not recommend going out hunting big game just yet,
first step is getting out in the field,
learning the land/animals,
also when you get your shotgun, practice first before heading out in the field with it,
any ranges nearby? public or private? have your own land to practice on?
hunter orange requirements will vary by state, will be covered in your hunter ed course
whether its required or not, i highly recommend it.
in NY hunter orange is optional, and i wear it even when on my own land,
other states have various regulations, certain amount of sq inches on head and body,

remember hunter ed will teach you the basics to hunt safely and ethically,
they will not teach you how to be a good hunter, that will take time,

for safety your gear will vary, how far into the field you plan on going, how long you plan on staying out,
basics safety gear, first aid, compass, fire starting kit,
hunting alone, let someone know your plans/route/how long you plan on staying out,
heater? not at all,
if your not comfortable being out in the cold, keep your day short, and learn to properly layer your clothes,
field dressing a dear isnt difficult, doing quickly, efficiently, etc will take time, basic field dressing will be covered in hunters ed,
as for butchering the deer recommend taking it to a deer processor nearby, find 1 or 2 ahead of time so your not scrambling looking after the fact.
wouldnt be concerned about the weight
smaller deer = less meat, but generally easier to harvest a smaller deer,

while your waiting on your license, there is nothing stopping you from getting out in the field, scouting, finding spots,
get your gun and practice,
also have you thought of small game?
deer seasons are usually pretty short, but small games are usually available most of winter

Palehorse 10-12-2012 11:57 AM


1. Other than, say, cameo clothing, a shotgun, a knife for dressing, what other equipment will I absolutely need? I speculate I may have to buy one of those bright orange vests so that other hunters may see me.
You need comfortable, durable clothing, with a way to carry your necessities: license/tags, ammo, knife, light. I hunted for years in my farmwork overalls and a plaid top coat. If you are going to be distant from water/food/shelter, then you may want a water bottle/canteen, energy bars, and a poncho/raingear.

Adding purpose made hunting clothing is nice, but expensive, and you are not as likely to where them in other situations. See what you have in outdoor wear/work clothes and add what you need. You have years to add fancier items.

Orange is a legal necessity for some, a safety must for others. I happen to be the latter. I wear orange for turkey. I'd rather go home empty handed than dead.


2. I'm thinking of buying a portable heater (that uses propane; I assume that even with proper clothing, it'll be nice to have a heater as I will be outside in colder weather). Yay or nay for bringing heaters while hunting?
I have seen them used in permanent blinds (be careful of CO poisoning), but not in the field. I have also seen the chemical heat generating bags. I have not used either.


3. How difficult is it to dress a deer?
I grew up in a slaughter house, so I am a little biased. Due to the smallish size and often lack of hoist to hold the carcass in the field, it can be more difficult than beef, but not the pain of scraping hogs. About like mutton. If you are squeamish, that is a different issue to which I cannot relate.


4. The average deer you guys have hunted - if counting only meals for one average-sized male adult, how much meat does each hunted animal yield (how many meals)?
Average 2.5 year olds yield about 75 pounds of boned out meat. Young animals considerablu less.

Treebeard 10-12-2012 02:36 PM

Welcome and enjoy the new world you are about to enter.
Learn your weapon and respect your game.
Buy good boots keep your feet dry never sacrifice on that
Good luck
Treebeard

FlDeerman 10-13-2012 06:55 AM

I would say,read as much as you can about hunting deer.Don't buy into all the"you have to have this and the deer will flock to you".Self teaching yourself is hard but it can be done.Read as much as you can here,you can learn from others experiences.LEARN YOUR WEAPON OF CHOICE!!Forgot to add:ask questions!!

PREDATE 10-13-2012 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by elmoughler (Post 3989997)
once it gets cold out I usually just wear my brown carharts with no trouble. You may also want to invest in a treestand.
2. Why on earth would you take a heater to the woods with you. If you dont like the cold you shouldn't be deer hunting IMO

Please do not wear brown clothing unless you have orange on! We would like to see you through this first season!
I reccomend orange whenever you're afield.
Gun safety is very important. Never climb a tree with a gun. Never cross a fence with a gun. Pretty much common sense things, just don't take avoidable risks.
If you want a heater, then so be it. Heck, take a coleman camp stove and cook s'mores if you feel like it! Don't feel like you have to kill a deer right away, learn all you can about the animals and the environment.
Most of all, just enjoy yourself out there.
It is a special time and I am thankful for every minute that I can spend in the solitude of Gods creation! I hope you will too! :patriot:

elmoughler 10-13-2012 09:20 AM

Just for the record I do always wear hunter orange. My point was that you don't need camo to harvest deer.

PREDATE 10-13-2012 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by elmoughler (Post 3990344)
Just for the record I do always wear hunter orange. My point was that you don't need camo to harvest deer.

and that's a good point!
I've had many successful bowhunts in jeans and sneakers!

He seemed like he was already in the know about orange, just these days you can't stress it enough!

elmoughler 10-14-2012 03:19 AM

I agree, I hunt all private land that my family owns, however I still wear my orange. Never know who may be trespassing on your property.

huntingkidPA 10-14-2012 04:17 AM

What Will you Need/tips

-your shotgun

-a couple boxes of slugs

-If it has a full choke do not shoot slugs through it, anything modified or under is ok.

-You WILL need range time, and if it will be your first time shooting i suggest you have a friend bring a small caliber rifle. Shooting slugs your first time might cause bad form, flinches, etc.

-Don't get caught up about killing a deer each year unless you really want to get meat on the table. Heck i havent killed a buck with my bow for 2 years now

-Camo Jeans/ Camo button down shirt. You can get these at walmart for about 12$. I get them a size big and then just were a hoody and sweat pants underneath. I like it a lot better than wearing my cold weather gear.

-hiking boots

-fanny pack

- get a blaze orange vest and hat, never hunt with out it.

-knife


this should get you started good luck

7MMXBOLT 10-14-2012 04:45 AM

A good GPS!

If your plan is to hunt the big woods, getting lost can make for a bad experience your first year out. I use a Garmin 530 Rhino and it is probably my most important tool. Thats not to say you don't need to learn how to use a compass. Batteries can go dead and then your screwed!

sachiko 10-14-2012 05:11 AM

Welcome to the forum and to the world of hunting. I was lucky in that my husband taught me to shoot and is still teaching me to hunt. It was a completely new thing for me.

You may find that the emphasis in the class is on safety rather than how to hunt. It doesn't matter whether you get any game as long as you don't kill/injure yourself or someone else.

For clothes, hunter orange is absolutely required, both for safety and legally. It looks really obvious to us but deer can't see it very well. When I say they can't see it, I mean deer don't see colors well. So that vest that looks bright orange to us, doesn't really stand out from the surrounding landscape for a deer. Pink is even less visible but hunters would, I think, object to wearing pink. Blue stands out for deer. So if you want them to spot you, wear those blue jeans and denim jacket.

I wear children's size clothes, so my stuff costs a fortune. But my husband wears military surplus that he gets dirt cheap from Sportsmans Guide.

Unless money is no object, you should think about getting two guns, one for hunting and one for practice. You can practice shooting all day with a .22 for a few bucks. You'll want to practice some with your hunt gun too, but once you have the basics, all guns work the same. (Heavier guns though, have less recoil.)

I don't know where you are, but if it gets cold there, dress warm. We don't hunt from a stand so we're always moving which keeps you warmer. You'll chill pretty fast if you're sitting still.

You can learn a lot by reading. My husband, before I met him read a book by one of the Benoits which describes tracking deer. He studied it and practiced until he could do it himself so that's what we do.

You should give bowhunting a shot. You can spend tons of money on equipment, but you don't have to do that. We bought my Proline youth bow at a yard sale for $20 and I've taken two deer with it. My husband bought his last bow for half price because somebody didn't like it and brought it back. He likes it fine. Practice with a bow is really cheap. We practice in our backyard. We shoot six arrows a day each, unless the weather is really nasty. Our oldest girl, five, will be getting her own little bow for Christmas.

You can learn a lot on these forums. Just go ahead and ask questions. I don't post much but I read a lot.


:sheep:
May The Sheep Be With You

7MMXBOLT 10-14-2012 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by sachiko (Post 3990580)

You can learn a lot by reading. My husband, before I met him read a book by one of the Benoits which describes tracking deer. He studied it and practiced until he could do it himself so that's what we do.

+1 :happy0001:
These brothers are probably some of the best big woods hunters here in the North East. They are from Maine and hunt primaraly Maine, New Hampshire, & Vermont. They're style of tracking is really the only way to do it and be successful at it.

You can't go wrong learning from them. :s4:

Huntador 10-14-2012 06:45 PM

Thanks all. I will definitely invest in cameo clothing (I have previously made purchases from the Sportsman Guide). Today I learned that male turkeys have white, red, and blue on their heads, so I must not wear those clothes.

I passed the shotgun and written exams - I am now legally authorized to purchase a hunting license in my state! I've narrowed down my choices for a long gun. Hunting, here I come!

rogerstv 10-16-2012 09:34 AM

Thanks all. I will definitely invest in cameo clothing (I have previously made purchases from the Sportsman Guide). Today I learned that male turkeys have white, red, and blue on their heads, so I must not wear those clothes.

I passed the shotgun and written exams - I am now legally authorized to purchase a hunting license in my state! I've narrowed down my choices for a long gun. Hunting, here I come!

Sorry, but to me you sound very naive. I commend you on asking your questions. Most are very good. My suggestion is to find some people to take you hunting before you get in too deep and spend tons of money on crap you don't necessarily need because someone on line told you so.

Also, your location will dictate your type of hunting. The Benoit way will never work in my area of Illinois. Around here, you're best to get your butt up in a tree over a food source or trail to and from a food source/bedding area.

There are lots of ins and outs. You'll learn most of them through trial and error and mistakes. One of my biggest was learning just to stay put.

Take it easy. Go slow. Keep asking questions. But, most importantly find someone to take you hunting. Better yet is to go with more than one so as you will learn different things from different people. Good luck.


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