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Canadahunter 01-29-2002 09:01 PM

How do you feel about this?
 
A few days ago I posted "Do all deer herd".
Around here(upper Laurentians)people feed the deer in the winter.They set up feeders in their backyards and feed.Some do it all winter long.Others strictly on weekends when the come up to cottage country.
The problem with this is if you are going to feed them, you MUST keep feeding them because they stop foraging.The young deer become accostomed to this and are not learning the natural way to feed themselves adequately.Often you will see 30 or 40 deer crossing huge lakes to reach "feeding zones" on the opposing shore.In the spring some deer that are still depending on the free meal will go through the ice and die.I don't personnally think we should be allowed to do this as humans, for we are messing with nature.
More deer in populated areas attracts more frequent deer car mishaps, endangering human and animal life.The deer become dependant on these free meals thus losing their natural fear of humans.
All in all it ends up being a lose-lose situation for the deer.

Edited by - Canadahunter on 01/29/2002 22:02:19

Robb92 01-29-2002 09:29 PM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
ITS SAD WHEN SOME PEOPLE KEEP FEEDING THE DEER AND THEY BECOME PETS AND THEN WHEN A HUNTER SHOOTS THE DEER THE PEOPLE WHO FED THE DEER ARE OUTRAGED AND CALL US MURDERS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH BUT THEY ARE THE ONES AT FAULT FOR DISRUPTING THE NATURAL CYCLE OF LIFE.

Edited by - robb92 on 01/29/2002 22:31:43

Canadahunter 01-29-2002 09:34 PM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
"DISRUPTING THE NATURAL CYCLE OF LIFE."...those are the exact words I was looking for Robb92.Thank's.Brain is tired tonight.LOL.

tschaef 01-29-2002 09:40 PM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
I agree, in fact, I argued with my mom to stop feeding the cottage ducks in the fall so they would fly south.
But, we can't take the position of naturalists who argue that nature will take care of itself, because humans have already altered nature so drastically.
I think there can be a balance.

kshunter 01-29-2002 09:53 PM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
Robb, you nailed it...That's exactly how it is.
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cardeer 01-30-2002 01:50 AM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
Well i quess Im in the minority on this subject.I feed the deer all winter as soon as hunting season is over.They feed 10 yards off my back yard.Yes once you start you should not stop,so it is a comitment.I will feed from January till May.I feed them the same food they would have available in the summer.Corn, Roasted soybeans,sorgum,a alfalpha grain mix with a molasses base.I buy a couple hundred apples at the local wholesale produce auction. Last year I went thru about 1200 lbs of feed. I can guarantee you these deer are not tame and can spot someone in the house when we walk by the window 60 yards away.I,ve tried sneaking up on them to get pictures and aint no way.These are the fattest deer in the area.One got hit up the road this fall a 181 lb doe.It had 1/2 inch of yellow fat lining the whole body.YUM YUM Yummy,I feed it I ate it.I have heard all the negatives over the years and just cant agree.

buckhunter3 01-30-2002 06:00 AM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
I see nothing wrong with feeding deer in the off season.It lets some deer
survive and come out of the winter in good shape.I would call it a "Win-Win"
situation.If the feeding is stopped in May as cardeer does, they will go back to their normal routine as a wild deer.I would be careful on any feeding or using salt licks.If they are found within 30 days prior to hunting season, and I mean any amount on the ground, No one can hunt in that area.I have seen this happen before.

Tazman 01-30-2002 06:03 AM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
Well I feed birds year round and plan on trying to get deer to feed in my back yard, I have never seen the situation you are describing where the deer form up into herds in Va., unless you are calling 4-6 deer a herd.

The Tazman

orientalarcher 01-30-2002 10:37 AM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
In our area, once the snow level gets to be a certain depth, most of the local conservation clubs commence a feeding program that continues until the deer either move out of the yard area or the winter breaks and ground is showing and the deer can forage on their own.

Tree climber 01-30-2002 01:56 PM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
I'm in the minority with ya Cardeer,I feed also.last year I put out about 6,000 lbs of feed.I have yet to see a deer that yuo can get near.
get upwind three hundred yrds. and they leave just the same as any other.
the are fat and most have two and some three fawns.
befor I started to feed I never saw does with two fawns.
to me that is a win win situation.
thats my two cents,there are 98 more.


I am not a hunter I am a whitetail population reduction specialest

remember keep your back to the sun, your knife sharp, and your powder dry.

pabuckhunter 01-30-2002 06:46 PM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
If Could afford to feed them would but my problem is i got four children ,three cats ,a dog ,and two rabbits oh and one wife so I can't other wise I have no prob if it is just for the winter. P.S. Take a youngster hunting keep hunting alive. <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

Canadahunter 01-30-2002 07:29 PM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
You say you can't approach the deer.
I can't post picks, but I'm going to mail pictures, yes plural, pictures of people, children walking up to wild deer and petting them and hand feeding them.These are wild deer.No one see's a problem here?
I just don't think it's healthy to do this.Just my opinion mind you.

Adui13 01-30-2002 11:41 PM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
Greets,
Well I have often wondered about this subject, I can see an advantage to feeding in the manner that Cardeer and acouple others have said they do. So long as A: they are willing to continue every year, unless the deer become tame to people. and B: The Deer are not getting too used to human contact, I:E the pics you are sending of people hand feeding them. My VERY uneducated opinion would be in the case that that begins to happen, that either the feeders get tapered off gradually, giving the deer time to reaclimate to foraging, and / or some sort of operation is started to keep the deer afraid of humans. ( some thing legal and humane but that would make the deer afraid of human contact. )

Just my uneducated opinion!
Terry

cardeer 01-31-2002 01:21 AM

RE: How do you feel about this?
 
Canadahunter, Question are those deer hunted hard by 100's of people? The deer I'm talking about have hunters chasing them from Sept to January.I think your huntin season in canada isnt that long and correct me if I'm wrong but the amount of hunters per acre is not near as high as in Pa.Here on a saturday huntin You can see 5 deer and 50 hunters.Thats the scenerio here,Im speaking of.These deer spook when a little bird flys buy.


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