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JagMagMan 01-29-2002 02:56 PM

Why can't we all just get along?
 
Why can't we all just get along? Or a better title might be "We'd better get along or the anti's will pick us apart!"
I have written before on this subject, but lately I have seen a disturbing trend here on ethics and competitiveness! First, don't get me wrong, we can and should discuss ethics issues here. We should just do it in a more civil manner! We can all learn something from each other and that is what this board is all about. Also, the best place to discuss ethics is at your local public hearings where hunting law changes are made, and also calls and letters to your game commissioners. We should ultimately support each other as long as the way we are hunting is LEGAL!
The other alarming thing I see here is the over-competitivness trend we are developing!
I am not saying that record books and big buck contests are wrong. A little competition is healthy!
What I am talking about is the over-competitve, over-zealeous, ego-pumping one-ups-manship! When someone makes the statement "I only hunt this way and would never hunt this way or that way," it serves no purpose other than to pump up one's ego and bash another person!
Again, I say we should be more supportive or at the very least, a little more tolerant of other methods of hunting as long as what they are doing is LEGAL!
You hunt over bait, or you don't hunt over bait! SO WHAT! If it is legal, you have a CHOICE! If it is not legal where you hunt you have no choice, obey the law!
You are a trophy hunter! That's great, I am too! SO WHAT! If there were no meat hunters or doe hunters, the doe population would get out of whack and the trophy hunting and the deer herd itself would suffer!
You hunt from a comfortable blind, you only stalk! SO WHAT! Does someone hunting from a blind HURT your hunting? NO!
I hunt with a gun. I hunt only open sights, I hunt with a bow, oh I only hunt wearing a loin-cloth and carrying a hand carved spear! Again, I say "SOOOO WHAT! The list could go on forever! One way of hunting does not make me better than you. As I said before, we should be more supportive of our fellow hunters as long as we are hunting LEGALLY! We would be better off using our energy to stop poachers and educate the non-hunting community that there is a difference between LEGAL hunting and POACHING!
Some of our competitiveness or over competitiveness should I say, only drives wedges between us as hunters, that the anti's could only dream of doing as well themselves!
While some call hunting a sport, it is more than a mere sport, and much more than a competitive sport!
Hunting is a love of nature, a love of the outdoors and a love of life itself! We would do well to promote and support LEGAL hunting this way instead of bashing each others hunting methods!

JagMagMan 01-29-2002 02:58 PM

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Sorry for the double posts, darn 'puter's been doing this for a couple of days now!

TxCowboy 01-29-2002 02:59 PM

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All I can say is Amen! Great post Frank, probably the best I've seen on here in a long time. Who cares who wins the "most ethical" award? Seems like thats all some people think about around here.

Borch 01-29-2002 03:19 PM

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Good post. I'm tiring of the egotistical(sp) posts myself. Wish folks would be more tolerant of other's methods of hunting than they seem to be here. But it's not just hunters. Every board I've been to has some folks like this whether we're talking hunting, fishing, cars or motorcycles. I just guess some folks are wired that way.

Chairman 01-29-2002 03:53 PM

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I couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks for the post, Frank...

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Russ otten 01-29-2002 05:07 PM

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I commend you, Frank. When I asked the Mod to lock a certain thread, I really couldn't find the words to say. You did it, and in beautiful fashion. I came on this board to learn and share information. What I was actually learning was not what I came for. I hope your post will open some eyes.
Thanks.

Robb92 01-29-2002 05:17 PM

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DARN GOOD POST FRANK!!!!

sshunter 01-29-2002 05:50 PM

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WELL SAID!

coyote170 01-29-2002 06:38 PM

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VERY well said,thanks for the post!!

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stubblejumper 01-29-2002 08:58 PM

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A job well done frank.

haveme1 01-29-2002 10:12 PM

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I agree Frank. I saw that kind of stuff on yesterday and I got on a soap box to voice the same as you. The anti hunters and anti gunners are hoping we'll destroy ourselves. Let's not make it so easy for them. Let's band together and support each other.<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

soarkrebel 01-30-2002 12:32 AM

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yeah im with you rodney...uh........frank!

Tazman 01-30-2002 06:08 AM

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Well said Frank, you should go to the bow board, they have a couple of real elitist there, one of them is so anti gun it isn't funny.

The Tazman

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Andy Wi Deer Hunter 01-30-2002 08:43 AM

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thats the one thing that bugs me about hunting..not in the hunting itself but rather in all the compitition between hunters..i don't think just because you shoot a big buck that makes you any more of a man..i do have a big problem with guys who flaunt their tropheys and ack all macho because they get a big buck,or catch a big fish, or shoot a big tom ect. don't get me wrong here, i do think it is alright to show off your success, but do it in a moddess manner..i don't even get the deerhead mounted but i do put the antlers on the wall....and that is ok, just don't compete with other hunters and respect the animal you hunt.

Biteme/Paul Mohr 01-30-2002 10:09 AM

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It's not in our nature to get along. The human race seems to be hell bent on creating havoc, and going to war with each other for whatever reasons. It has happened since the dawn of our existance. Some even killed in the name of God. We are our own worst enemy and will eventually do ourselves in, I am sure of it.

It was a good post Frank, and I agree with you. But there will always be that person that will not. And he will go to extremes to make you beleive he or she is right.

Paul

orientalarcher 01-30-2002 10:28 AM

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Great post Frank. Would never have been able to say it as well as you did.

groundblind 01-30-2002 11:04 AM

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Very well said! Some folks need to boost thier ego by thinking that they are better than someone else.Maybe they think it makes up for their lack of skill.Thankgoodness it's a very few folks.

NE Hunter 01-30-2002 04:57 PM

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well said hunting is hunting and my way isn't better than yours

Dan O. 01-30-2002 06:06 PM

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I've heard that most people listen to a radio station in their heads: WIFM. It stands for what's in it for me. Good Post.

Dan O.

smokepoledoug 01-30-2002 06:24 PM

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Well said Frank. I am 100% in agreement to everything you posted.

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pabuckhunter 01-30-2002 06:26 PM

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Could not have said it better myself good job frank. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> P.s. Take a youngster hunting keep hunting alive.

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Weasel 01-30-2002 07:22 PM

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Well done buddy!

Kanuk380 01-30-2002 07:33 PM

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Amen!!

halcon 01-30-2002 07:43 PM

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Good post.

FlDeerman 01-30-2002 07:58 PM

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Great post,ditto's,and I really think it should be posted at the beginning of each forum.<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

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ShortHair 01-31-2002 07:09 PM

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Amen Brother. Even when I was a big rack hunter I was never so arrogant. I love to shoot a big racked buck. But you know what, I love to shoot any grown deer. It's all fun to me.
I just love they way they taste. Ya'll be cool.


JagMagMan 02-01-2002 04:46 AM

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Thanks for the positive responses. I really hate to vent, but I just got tired of the negative trends that I am beginning to see here.
As gun owners and hunters I believe that we all have one thing in common, THE APPRECIATION FOR, AND THE LOVE OF A FINE GAME ANIMAL SUCH AS THE WHITETAIL DEER! Anytime I meet a stranger and find that they are hunters too, they are no longer strangers, but new friends with a common bond! That is why I am addicted to and love this board so much! Our focus should be on promoting fellowship, sportsmanship, conservation, and as I said before, to teach the non-hunting public that there is a big difference between legal hunting and poachers!
While the anti's know that there is a difference, (with their warped sense of values, they just don't care!) There are probably many non-hunters that would be sympathetic to our cause if they knew just how much REAL hunters love animals and that poachers are CRIMINALS that have no part in our fraternity!
Again, sorry for venting so much, but we need to fight the real enemies and not each other!
Frank

Coolerpup 02-01-2002 05:13 AM

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You beat me to it Frank. I am with you 110% on this. Your choice of words was probably alot healthier than some of mine.

Yes I agree over in the bow forum we have a couple elitist, who I am not surprised have not responded to this thread. One really sticks out in my mind. Just check out the &quot;Is using a rifle cheating&quot; thread, or something along that line.


AllenC

stickerpt 02-01-2002 09:14 AM

RE: Why can't we all just get along?
 
Right on Frank! I hate to be pessimistic
but I have been reading different forums
for years and it is rare to see someone
change. They have their opinion about this
way or that way and come hell or high water,
they aint gonna change. I am 100% in your
corner though
.

stickerpt 02-01-2002 10:03 AM

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sorry server double posted.

Edited by - stickerpt on 02/01/2002 11:09:13

kentlyone 02-01-2002 01:21 PM

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Good post. Some times there is alot of closed mindedness. Like you said this is the mentality the anti.s want us to have. If it keeps up there will be more Bill Mahrs in the world.

Nitro 02-01-2002 11:56 PM

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I think your right Frank. This Post needs to be at the top of this Forum so all can read including the Bow Forum. People should have the choice.To the point it dosn't endanger the Public.


ShortHair 02-02-2002 04:19 AM

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How about instead of putting this thread at the begining of each forum, which is a good idea. Let's have seperate forum called &quot; Gods Gift To Deer Hunting &quot; or &quot; Chuck Adams Wannabes &quot;. There these guys who are such great hunters could brag to their hearts content. Then the other forums could be subtitled &quot;For Normal Hunters &quot;.


Nitro 02-02-2002 06:46 PM

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Shorthair I think your last post hit the nail right on the HEAD.


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RedOak 02-04-2002 03:53 PM

RE: Why can't we all just get along?
 
Amen Frank

When I came across this site it looked like a good place to learn a thing or two.

Lets see so far I have learned I am doing this all wrong.

Wrong method (rifle not bow).
Wrong riffle (semi not bolt).
Wrong riffle (Dosen't cost enough).
Wrong caliber (Not big enough 7.62x39)
Wrong selection (if it has horns I will shoot)

Ohh well I'm not going to let it get me down I think I will just go build a shooting house now.


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