A question of ethics (what would you do?)
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Giant Nontypical
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From: Ohio
#12
Typical Buck
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Cutting off racks and leaving the carcass is illegal in Michigan. Oh, and they WILL prosecute you. You have to dispose of the carcas/parts in a "approved" landfill, it used to be after you processed your deer you could throw unused parts out in the trash pick-up. Not anymore, you will get ticketed for improper disposal of infectious waste AND littering. BTW, who ever did that is despicable and immoral IMO. Turn it in!
#13
Thanks, everyone....
I called the Nat'l Forest's nearby ranger district office yesterday, and left a message on their voice mail reporting what I saw on Saturday, and for them to call me back if they have further questions.
I doubt there is anything that could be done at this point, but, they might send someone out to check the carcasses and/or remove them from the spot.
I called the Nat'l Forest's nearby ranger district office yesterday, and left a message on their voice mail reporting what I saw on Saturday, and for them to call me back if they have further questions.
I doubt there is anything that could be done at this point, but, they might send someone out to check the carcasses and/or remove them from the spot.
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Fork Horn
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From: Southeastern PA
A worse, and possibly more dangerous scenario would be finding the perps in the act. What then? Particularly if they see you. Obviously, if you are not seen, you have the opportuntiy to back out and call the authorities.
Unfortunately, that would be a dicey situation. Even if you are sure they are the perps (and not another party who just stumbled on the same site as you), You are dealing with armed people but, would a citizen's arrest allow you to disarm them and hold them for police? What if they resist? What are you able to do under your state's laws?
Lots of questions. Any lawyers out there that actually know?
Unfortunately, that would be a dicey situation. Even if you are sure they are the perps (and not another party who just stumbled on the same site as you), You are dealing with armed people but, would a citizen's arrest allow you to disarm them and hold them for police? What if they resist? What are you able to do under your state's laws?
Lots of questions. Any lawyers out there that actually know?
#15
Indian Graves Ridge to name one.
We don't know the circumstances of what you've found. We can't pass judgement on others, even unknown others whom we feel strongly about.
We simply don't know what happened.
On the other hand, almost every DNR ENCON office has an anonymous tip line in operation. Make use of it, protect our sport!
IMHO
We don't know the circumstances of what you've found. We can't pass judgement on others, even unknown others whom we feel strongly about.
We simply don't know what happened.
On the other hand, almost every DNR ENCON office has an anonymous tip line in operation. Make use of it, protect our sport!
IMHO
#16
A worse, and possibly more dangerous scenario would be finding the perps in the act. What then? Particularly if they see you. Obviously, if you are not seen, you have the opportuntiy to back out and call the authorities.
Unfortunately, that would be a dicey situation. Even if you are sure they are the perps (and not another party who just stumbled on the same site as you), You are dealing with armed people but, would a citizen's arrest allow you to disarm them and hold them for police? What if they resist? What are you able to do under your state's laws?
Lots of questions. Any lawyers out there that actually know?
Unfortunately, that would be a dicey situation. Even if you are sure they are the perps (and not another party who just stumbled on the same site as you), You are dealing with armed people but, would a citizen's arrest allow you to disarm them and hold them for police? What if they resist? What are you able to do under your state's laws?
Lots of questions. Any lawyers out there that actually know?
#17
Fork Horn
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From: Southeastern PA
Play along and accept the situation. Then give us your answer. That is the point of the exercise.
#18
No but, I would not be poaching either. My hypothetical was putting the reader in the place the originaltor of this thread. You come upon (to clarify) a situation of obvious illegal activity; what, if anything, do you do?
Play along and accept the situation. Then give us your answer. That is the point of the exercise.
Play along and accept the situation. Then give us your answer. That is the point of the exercise.
As to what I'd do? I would get as many identifying features(physical description, liscense tag, type of vehicle in area) as I could and report it to the VA Dept of Game & Inland Fisheries.
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Fork Horn
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From: Southeastern PA
Okay, but they see you. You do not know what they will do. What, if anything would you say to them as you back away?
I would sugggest everyone think about this in advance. It will be too late when and if it happens. The course of action, to the extent possible, must be decided in advance.
I would sugggest everyone think about this in advance. It will be too late when and if it happens. The course of action, to the extent possible, must be decided in advance.
#20
Okay, but they see you. You do not know what they will do. What, if anything would you say to them as you back away?
I would sugggest everyone think about this in advance. It will be too late when and if it happens. The course of action, to the extent possible, must be decided in advance.
I would sugggest everyone think about this in advance. It will be too late when and if it happens. The course of action, to the extent possible, must be decided in advance.


