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Master Chief 02-05-2011 06:33 PM

Tennessee survivor
 
I got some pics of the 10 point I was telling you guys I seen on my farm. Good to see he's still living. I have a lotof pics but slow internet so I'll only upload a few. My friend let me borrow his camera last week and just now got around to postin this. I can't score/age deer very well so anyone who can I'd appreciate it. Is he perhaps 160 inches 3 1/2 years old? Idunno just a guess. I know he is tall and has nice mass but not the greatest spread.











Thanks for looking:wave:

DesertGhost 02-05-2011 06:54 PM

NICE buck. Great length, good mass. I too am bad at judging, but i think that the 150 mark is easy, and maybe as high as 165/170. then again, my guesses dont mean crap cause I like guessing size after I shot them, when I use my tape :)

Master Chief 02-05-2011 06:58 PM

Yeah thats how I feel. Gonna get him next year though. :)

I also just noticed that it seems as if that spike is his little buddy lol

Broncazonk 02-06-2011 05:07 PM

BIG deer for West Tennessee
 
Hey Master Chief: That's a r-e-a-l-l-y good deer for West Tennessee, outstanding actually.

It's very hard to age bucks in the winter because they lose so much weight in November and December. He's about mature--at least 4 1/2--and he may be 5 1/2 or older.

He's very short-bodied, that's what's throwing you off.

Words of Advice: (1) Provide that deer as much protein as he can eat this winter and into spring. (2) Get deer mineral blocks (not cow) out right now. (3) Plant beans on your farm this spring. (4) Schedule three-weeks of leave/vacation tomorrow as close to the rut as possible.. (5) Plant Austrian snow peas this fall. (6) Practice with your bow or rifle--a lot.
(7) Pray, and do lots of it.

Good Luck!!!

Bronc

Hunt4Life23 02-06-2011 07:23 PM

wow thats a great buck! i would say he is a 4 year old, got great mass and awesome tine length! as far as a score i would think right around 155-160. would be nice if he had longer brows but he could go as high as 165 or so. awesome buck

Master Chief 02-06-2011 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Broncazonk (Post 3769900)
Hey Master Chief: That's a r-e-a-l-l-y good deer for West Tennessee, outstanding actually.

It's very hard to age bucks in the winter because they lose so much weight in November and December. He's about mature--at least 4 1/2--and he may be 5 1/2 or older.

He's very short-bodied, that's what's throwing you off.

Words of Advice: (1) Provide that deer as much protein as he can eat this winter and into spring. (2) Get deer mineral blocks (not cow) out right now. (3) Plant beans on your farm this spring. (4) Schedule three-weeks of leave/vacation tomorrow as close to the rut as possible.. (5) Plant Austrian snow peas this fall. (6) Practice with your bow or rifle--a lot.
(7) Pray, and do lots of it.

Good Luck!!!

Bronc

Sir, you are getting me too excited! Is it legal to use mineral blocks in TN? I thought it was a form of baiting, or can you bait deer during the off season? I already actually planned on planting beans in our feilds. I also can do 5 & will do 6. I'm only 15 so no need to take vacation, and trust me I'll skip school to hunt him (I make good grades so my dad doesn't care.)


Originally Posted by Hunt4Life23 (Post 3769959)
wow thats a great buck! i would say he is a 4 year old, got great mass and awesome tine length! as far as a score i would think right around 155-160. would be nice if he had longer brows but he could go as high as 165 or so. awesome buck

I hate how short his brows are as well but either way he'll look good on the wall next year(I sure hope so anyways!).

Hopefully I can find his sheds. Never really have time to shed hunt though :/

Broncazonk 02-06-2011 07:47 PM

He's over 160" Gross -
 
I'm fairly certain he grosses over 160", somewhere in the mid/high 160's.

It about takes 8" to 10" G-4's (or really long brow-tines) to gross above 170" as a ten point.

Wow, what a nice deer. I really hope you find his sheds, at least one, so we can get his actual measurements.

It's only baiting if you hunt over mineral blocks during the season. Pull them out in September. Your deer will really benefit from having mineral right now and all through the summer.

Also, have your parents work with your school so you can work ahead, do your assignments ahead of time, so you can miss at least a week of school in one block. At least a week so you will have 9 full days, weekend to weekend, AT A MINIMUM.

Finally, practice and then practice more with your rifle or bow. You need to be shooting all winter, and all summer, weather permitting.

Listen carefully here: Make sure any new stand locations are in by this winter, and then leave them alone. DO NOT make special preparations by setting setting stands and cutting new lanes a week before the season, that will not work.

You have a chance to do something really special here. Make a quest of it. Commit to it. Dedicate yourself to it. A couple / several nice 10+ acre Austrian winter pea food plots will really help you next hunting season. If you don't plant winter wheat, and your fields are fallow over the winter, put them in the most remote parts of your most remote fields. Start planning that right now, where those plantings will be.

You may never see this deer again...but then again--you may catch him flat-footed next season. Either way, you must be prepared, because deer like this do not tolerate amateur hour.

ALSO: And most importantly... keep this kinda to yourself locally. A deer like this draws a lot of jealous customers.

Bronc

nate121080 02-06-2011 08:06 PM

Thats a really good tennessee buck but want make 160. Low to mid 150's. Heres my measurements and I'm being generous. A really nice buck though and I would age him at least to be 4.5 maybe 5.5. Tennessee deer are short and can be tricky to judge.

Beams = 48
Spread= 16
G1 = 4
G2 = 22
G3 = 20
G4 = 8
H = 34

Total 152

Broncazonk 02-06-2011 08:28 PM

All his points are longer than that...
 
He has way to much curve in his main beam and points to be a 150" deer. I'm from Kansas and have seen boat-loads of 150" to 180" deer. That's a really good one. Best deer I've seen on the hoof from Tennessee in a very long time.

His main beams are 23" to 24".
His brow tines are both a bit over 3".
His back tines are over 12" and likely 13".
His G-3's are both over 11". (His left G-3 certainly is.)
His G-4's are both over 5".

Unless, he's an absolute midget--a tiny-bodied deer--he is really short-bodied, but I don't think so. Either way, he's well worth doing what's necessary to get this deer on the ground.



Bronc

nate121080 02-07-2011 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Broncazonk (Post 3769977)
He has way to much curve in his main beam and points to be a 150" deer. I'm from Kansas and have seen boat-loads of 150" to 180" deer. That's a really good one. Best deer I've seen on the hoof from Tennessee in a very long time.

His main beams are 23" to 24".
His brow tines are both a bit over 3".
His back tines are over 12" and likely 13".
His G-3's are both over 11". (His left G-3 certainly is.)
His G-4's are both over 5".

Unless, he's an absolute midget--a tiny-bodied deer--he is really short-bodied, but I don't think so. Either way, he's well worth doing what's necessary to get this deer on the ground.



Bronc

Those brows are not over 3 inches. There stubs. The G4's are close to 4". I gave him 11" G2 and 10" G3. So say they are a inch longer hes still 156 and not 160. His body is really small which makes the horns look big. I bet with guts he's only around 180 lbs. Either way he's a reallly nice buck and I would not pass him up.

Master Chief 02-07-2011 10:08 AM

To me he is right in the middle of what you two are saying. Bronc, I agree with nate you are off on his browtine lengths. Nate, the way bronc was saying his antlers curve does make the difference in inches your counting off. If you look at the last picture you will easily be able to tell his right G2 is well over 11 inches. Atleast 13. His left G3 is almost the same length of his G2 if you look close enough. I'm bad at scoring but I have a feeling 152 is a little low, he will probably only get a high 150 or low 160 though.

Here's what I think he has:

Main beams:
Right-22
Left-24
total-46

Browtines:
Left-1 1/2
Right-1 1/2
total=3 inches

G2s:
Left-12 1/2
Right-14
total=26 1/2

G3s:
Left-12
Right-11 1/2
total=23 1/3

G4s:
Left-4
Right-5
Total=9

Spread=about 16-18 so I'll say 17

H= idk what that is, mass? I'll just use your number-34

Which totals 159 inches

In the end idc what he scores right now, he might grow 10 inches next year. Even if he doesn't the highest typical deer I've seen killed around here is 149 gross. Other than that a couple 135 inch 8's and a nontypical 22 point but I don't know his score. I'm definately proud to have him on my farm. btw I'll definately be looking for his sheds when I can.

Broncazonk 04-24-2012 07:20 PM

How did this turn out??
 
How did this turn out. Did that young man connect with and collect that very good deer?

Bronc

HDMontana 04-25-2012 02:42 AM

Definitely a very nice buck.

Bocajnala 04-25-2012 11:32 AM

I don't recall seeing any posts that MC got this. Hopefully he sees the thread and can comment in it.
-Jake

Topgun 3006 04-25-2012 12:23 PM

I'd go with high 150s to low 160s on that buck, as his G2 and 3s are definitely longer than what some have stated. Hope someone got him other than the yotes or does this year if he's still alive as he's a nice one.

hunter_ludda 04-30-2012 05:52 PM

good looking buck! great length! good luck this year !

fastetti 05-01-2012 03:04 PM

That is a really nice buck no matter where you hunt. He'll sure be fun to go after next year. If he made it to late January with the light winter we had he'll be a dandy next year. I have no reason to think he's reached his potential yet.

That spike with him might be a buck he is running with. A lot of large bucks take on a very young buck late in the season for some reason. Not sure if its to mentor or what but its a pretty common occurance. I saw my target buck last day of the season (A monster 10 point) running with a 3 pt. Unfortunately, the 3 point snuck in while I was watching the 10 point. They trotted off together only to make me dream of next year.

Good luck with him and let us know how he progresses over the year!

Broncazonk 05-03-2012 08:14 PM

Still Impressive
 
Looking at those pictures again--that's a DARN good deer. I think that's the best Tennessee deer I've ever seen. He has a very unique look to his antlers.

Does his body look really thin in those pictures? His body shape is completely different than Kansas deer (really short bodied) and I'm having trouble aging him. Looking at his body again, I'm thinking he looks younger than I thought.

These silly things. That deer may be right there, but after they get to 4 1/2 y.o. they get REALLY difficult to find again--even in the rut.

Question: Are all West Tennessee deer short-bodied like that? (Compared to a Kansas deer he looks like he's missing three or four ribs!!


Bronc

Broncazonk 05-03-2012 08:23 PM

Pilot Bucks
 

Originally Posted by fastetti (Post 3934027)
That spike with him might be a buck he is running with. A lot of large bucks take on a very young buck late in the season for some reason. Not sure if its to mentor or what but its a pretty common occurance.

They do this in Kansas as well, even during the rut. It's always a 2 1/2 y.o. or long yearling, nothing any older, and usually a 2 1/2 y.o..

I call the young ones, "pilot bucks," and I agree, I've seen quite a few VERY LARGE bucks during the rut with one and even two pilot bucks.

Bronc

ky wonder 05-05-2012 04:33 AM

i wonder if those brow tines, have gotten broken, they look way to short for that rack.

here is a deer my brother killed last season, on our lonesome hollow farm, that looks to be in the same class, and proportions, but the brow tines are a tad over 8 inches on this lonesome hollow buck, green score was 162


ky wonder 05-05-2012 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Broncazonk (Post 3934648)
They do this in Kansas as well, even during the rut. It's always a 2 1/2 y.o. or long yearling, nothing any older, and usually a 2 1/2 y.o..

I call the young ones, "pilot bucks," and I agree, I've seen quite a few VERY LARGE bucks during the rut with one and even two pilot bucks.

Bronc

them old bucks get that way by being smart, those young bucks are the hunter sacrifice, old boy lets them go first, like a old cop veteran, letting the rookie go thru a hostile door first :),

Master Chief 08-12-2012 07:05 PM

The deer was never killed. I hvw a picture of him standing by a pretty nice 2.5-3.5 year old 8 point and he makes it look like a fawn. I'll post it tomorrow.

I seen him once in season and he was a good 300 yards off. I had my 30-30 and he was walking around looking for a doe he had been chasing.

invmp12 08-12-2012 07:18 PM

Master Chief, I live and hunt here in West Tenn. A county that borders Ky. Not to narrow your place down, are you north or south of Jackson ? That is an exceptional deer for our area, as you well know. Appears to be a river bottom deer, or near Ky.

Master Chief 08-14-2012 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by invmp12 (Post 3959988)
Master Chief, I live and hunt here in West Tenn. A county that borders Ky. Not to narrow your place down, are you north or south of Jackson ? That is an exceptional deer for our area, as you well know. Appears to be a river bottom deer, or near Ky.

I'm just a bit east of Jackson. Here is the picture were he dwarfs a 2.5 110" 8 point



I seriously can't see him grossing under 160 how he is in the pictures. He looked a good bit bigger last season but everything looks bigger in the stand lol

junxingcrossbow 08-14-2012 05:09 PM

wow..
so beautifull animals.

invmp12 08-14-2012 06:29 PM

I am familiar with your area, somewhat. I am near the Ky border, Obion River Bottom. I hope you are on some private ground and not near some of the more public. I sure do hope you are blessed to get a good shot him this fall ! That will be a great deer for our area. As you well know, with our buck limits, things are getting better. If you are able to take him, send me a private MSG and let me know. Good luck this fall !

Master Chief 08-14-2012 07:38 PM

I would be happy to just to see him again.

Ive heard that deer often shed their antlers were they are during bow season so I might set a stand up were I got these pics (got him on cam the next week antlerless)

I mostly am going to focus on getting the 130" buck Ive been getting on camera though. He isn't as smart and I know exactly how Ill hunt him. My biggest buck was only 90" and I really want to get one for the wall and a P&Y with my bow.

I most likely will set a stand up were these pics were taken though. Just in case I get that voice in my head saying today is the day. I definately know were to hunt him in the rut(where I saw him last year). I actually shot my 8 point a few days after I saw him.

invmp12 08-15-2012 06:49 PM

Listen to that small, still voice !

Broncazonk 11-17-2015 10:58 AM

Does anyone know how this turned out?
 
Did Master Chief see this buck in 2013 or 2014? Get any more photos? Any details?

Bronc

Oldtimr 11-17-2015 12:06 PM

As a retired LE officer I think the following quote from this thread is pretty lame and insulting. It isn't funny and it isn't true and a pizz poor analogy! " like a old cop veteran, letting the rookie go thru a hostile door first".


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