Cant hit the broadside of a barn with with 12 gauge! Help!
#1

For some reason I cannot hit a deer for the life of me with my 12 gauge 870 express. I missed twice this year, twice two years ago, once the year before that, and twice before that! I hunt the second part of the season in a shotgun only county, but the first half in a rifle area and I have knocked down a fair amount of deer with my 30-06 700ADL. But for some reason with my darn shotgun I always seem to choke. I get decent groups at the range with 2.75 inch copper solid sabots, but in all honesty since shooting a rifle is way more fun and not nearly as painful I dont tend to practice with the slug gun much. I really think it's %100 mental since I missed that first deer and it has gotten in my head since then. I have a couple solutions in mind:
1. Practice at least twice a month over the summer with the shotgun, its just a lack of confidence.
2. All the shots have been off-hand, since i sit in a box my father in law built and the sides are to low to use as a rest, so get a monopod to use as a rest.
3. Practice with the reduced recoil loads for practice just to get my confidence up and take one more variable out of the equation.
4. Last resort..and my favorite; BUY A NEW GUN (probably not most logical but any excuse for a new gun) been eyeing up the savage bolt action slug guns.
Any thoughts from veteran slug shooters?
1. Practice at least twice a month over the summer with the shotgun, its just a lack of confidence.
2. All the shots have been off-hand, since i sit in a box my father in law built and the sides are to low to use as a rest, so get a monopod to use as a rest.
3. Practice with the reduced recoil loads for practice just to get my confidence up and take one more variable out of the equation.
4. Last resort..and my favorite; BUY A NEW GUN (probably not most logical but any excuse for a new gun) been eyeing up the savage bolt action slug guns.
Any thoughts from veteran slug shooters?
#5
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 386

I'd venture to say the reduced recoil slugs will knock bambi over.
Even in a 20 ga.
My son groups well with a mossy 500a ghost ring sites. Fist time using the gun, he grouped 2" at 30 yards.
I'd gladly give him the gun during rifle season.
Even in a 20 ga.
My son groups well with a mossy 500a ghost ring sites. Fist time using the gun, he grouped 2" at 30 yards.
I'd gladly give him the gun during rifle season.
#7
Typical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Western New York
Posts: 639

You may be suffering from trigger creep shotgun triggers are not even comparable to a rifle trigger. If you jerk or slap a trigger on a shotgun it can drastically effect point of impact. Mentally remind yourself to squeeze instead of slap just an idea
#9

How does ML recoil compare to a 12 gauge sabot? I toyed with the idea of geting an ML to use in the shotgun zone, that way I can hunt during ML season to. I would probably stick with a max 250 grain sabot and 100 grains of pyrodex pellets. I am guessing a ML has better balance and trigger than a shotgun.
#10

If your gun prints good groups I'd say just practice more. If your trigger is an issue, take it to a gunsmith and have them do a trigger job on it. I had my Mossberg worked over and it's not like a high quality rifle trigger by any means, but it's a whole heck of a lot smoother and lighter than it was originally. A ML may give you more of the feel of a CF than the shotgun does. If you have the $, go with a new muzzleloader. Any excuse for another gun is a good one.
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