Gut pile affect your area?
 

Does anybody have expirence with this? Say ya gut your deer in your hunting area do the deer vacate? I always gut in a seperate local but this time I did Right thee.

Yes, it will affect thier routes. No brainer.

I shot a nice buck opening morning a few years back and gutted him very close to my stand. I went back to the stand for the afternoon hunt and a giant buck was standing right next to the gut pile. So I would say, in my experience, it is not a problem

i dont think so last year shot a buck and dumped the guts and carcass in the field that was being hunted. my buddy sat in the blind and had 4 bucks come into the same field feeding within 15 yards of the pile

They are probably used to the smell deer and other animals die in the woods all the time.

I would say it won't ruin your area but it doesn't help it either. If given the choice I would take it elsewhere.

Appreciate it fellas! I'm gonna head back to that spot, it's my favorite.

The coyotes are so thick in the areas I hunt that if you gut a deer one day, by the next morning any trace of it is gone. Hide, bones, blood, nothing remains.

I have never seen it have an adverse effect.
Good luck and be safe.

It's not going to affect any deer movement. I've seen em walk right by it, no acknowledgment, but it can be a pain in the arse when the crows find it and have a field day. If you think the squirrels make a bunch of noise, wait for them to start up in the morning and go all day.

No it wont. i have had gut piles right where they come thru the same day or the next.

I have also shot a doe and left it where it was to keep hunting for a buck or pigs or coyotes. I have seen deer walk right past another dead deer. It's life. They've seen many dead deer in their time.

hah! It never effects the deer in my area, to tell the truth they always go rite up to it and sniff it. Last year i took my lil cuzin out wit me and he shot a decent doe. Next day i myself went out and killed a Huge doe that went rite up to the gut pile, stood broadside sniffing it, and i put a arrow in her. So i guess its just my place but it dosnt effect them one bit.

I still see them in the areas I hunt. In fact I shot a high 160 class muley buck when I was in the middle of gutting an elk.We where gutting a moose and deer where walking through the cut block. I can kill a buck and see animals the very next day not far from the animal pile. Between the birds like eagles crows magpies whiskey jacks and coyotes and bears these gut piles are gone within 24 hours. All that's left is a stain of blood on the ground and even then the blood stained dirt been licked up.

The more you spread YOUR scent around an area the more chance you have of educating the deer to YOUR presence.You will spread your scent pretty heavily when kneeling down on the ground and gutting a deer.At some point,it WILL affect the deer movement in that area.

When the rut is on,all bets are off.Stupid bucks push does all over the place,even places they don't want to go.

Maybe with whitetails that's the case cause, they are more territorial I don't know. My experience with Elk moose mulies sheep you can go back the next day and something will be close by.They are always on the move reguardless of rut or not.Sudden weather patterns pushes them and so does temp .But I hunt alot in the high country, totally different than hunting lower elevation levels where animals walk to and from fields and bedding areas and weather and temp are more consistantly. Thinking this way, I can see that happening in this case.

You know, I haver never understood why one poster can't respect another's opinion. Its almost like they feel insecure.

In my experience, it does affect. I own land behind my house. Hunted it for the last 11 years. I know where the deer are coming thru and where not. I have dumped deer renderings before over the hill near where they always come up. After that, nothing all season long.

Sure, you got your little story, and I have got many stories too to back up my opinion.

If the poster is stupid enough to gut his favorite stand, go for it. Its his deer, his stand. No skin off my nose.

well after 20 somethin years..... the deer must be pretty dumb in my area. My Grandpa, His son and myself have been hunting this property every year. We manage it and produce many and large deer every year. So i dont see the problem..... I myself am a big scent control freak, but my grandpa still does it the old way, goes out wit just a normal set of camo clothing that has sat in his room all year. Goes out every year and still gets many deer rite under his stand. But like i said.... the deer must be pretty stupid on our property.

Lol your 100% correct, Let the hunters do as they have learned. Its Diffrent for everyone. Like i just said in my last post, The deer dont mind the gut piles in my woods, but they mite in someone elses.

If you hunt deer on a pattern and continuously are spreading your scent around THEIR living room,they will change their pattern.Might be only 50 yards and maybe only a few minutes difference but they will change it.

This kind of thing might not be a big issue for a gun hunter that only hunts during the rut phases but to a bowhunter that is trying to pattern a deer on a travel corridor,he definitely doesn't want to kill a couple deer in an area and lay on the ground and gut a deer.ESPECIALLY if you are trying to get on a big mature buck outside of the rut.If hunting a mature buck,I don't even want to kill anything in the area due to spreading my scent around.I will pass in the core areas of a mature buck.

Yeah it doesnt hurt anything. I gutted a deer once and went back that afternoon to hunt, and a doe came walking up and stuck her nose right down to the gut pile. She didnt spook or anything. Just acted normal.... So its okay to have a gut pile. :)

I harvested my buck within ten yards of where my brother's buck's gut pile was from a couple days before (gone by then, of course)

I think it will have no problem, but it does bring in scavengers like coyotes and etc. and in my experience it could spook a deer that is on his route to you or make him go another route. So more of an undirect outcome I would say. Long as there not much of your scent there it shouldnt hurt or make that big of a difference.

No need to get all butt hurt over this. You just wrote down ''no brainer'' with nothing else to back it up with your expierences. I think the insecurity is yours.
I had 2 does come through yesterday, same travel route, so the deer in my area are not bothered by it. [this time]
I definatly appreciate ALL responses, even when they call me stupid, but thatks fellas!

Your deer man. Have at it. Enjoy.

My experience is that it changes routes.

Actually thinking about it further that was a doe's route around a bucks gut pile. I'd be interested in hearing the sex by sex comparison of piles. It seems by some posts that a bucks gut pile will not affect another buck as much as the other options.

I was quoteing you because you said 'no brainer' and i wanted to have a response to it. It is a forum, and if you say something and others don't agree with it they can quote what you said and have a reply.

Dont get butt hurt over it. I had no intentions of being rude or calling you stupid. But it does seem like you were a little insecure with your response about being insecure. :biggrin:

I wonder though since our 1,800 acres has people on it over and over if the deer just get accustomed to humans being around. I then wonder since we take deer after deer off the property every year if they are use to seeing a guts and stuff all over the place. So it really could be a difference of place vs place.

When I've shot deer with a rifle, maybe 15% drop right where he walked on the runway, or general area. In that situation, I moved it off the beaten path, and gutted it in an obscure area, easily covered by brush, to hold off the crows as long as I could. But most of the time, they're taking off on a run, and end up away from my hunting area. In bowhunting (chasing my sons deer as I'm still cherry), this is often the rule of thumb that your going for a walk to find him. What, 100 yds, 200 yds or more, sometimes closer, but it's usually away from your stand. So, why worry about gutting him there. If they do sense something, let's say, they'll walk around the area where he laid down and back into yours.
If you feel you have to maintain a totally scent free area, then do what ya gotta do. If you rifle, and don't care, so be it. There's no right or wrong here, it's an individual preference.

While I'll usually drag deer away from my stand site before gutting them, I have shot 2 deer in my life that were actually sniffing gut piles when i shot them. One Buck and one Doe. The area I was hunting was only 14 acres with a house on it, so there was little choice but to gut the deer in the small part of it I could hunt. Both deer were sniffing gut piles from a Doe at the time.

Sure, its a forum, but I never asked you anything. I know what I know. You know what you know.

I just never understand folks like you. I am sure not hurt. We are not curing cancer here. Just you gave me the chance to address a common problem among hunters. I appoligize to use you as the example. One hunter will ask a question, and get many opinions. There's always others who "appear" insecure and need to attack others positions.

Let me explain. I have 2 leases and land behind my house. One, the freakin deer are about to jump out of thier skin at a moment notice. Is mostly big woods surrounded by other big woods. I have shot thru a deer and had an arrow in the ground. The deer ran 100 yards and expired. Another doe came and smelled that arrow with blood on it and freaked out.

On the other lease, I could throw stones at the deer. It doesn't matter to them. Another example. I turkey hunt on a cattle farm. The deer avoid the bone yard at all cost. Turkey don't. Even when there is not an actively rotting cow there, deer still avoid it like the plague.

This is common sense stuff. The answer is "it depends". Like I said, common sense stuff.

I for one don't take a chance. I don't put human pee in scrapes, I don't make mock scrapes. I don't leave gut piles. I play to win and keep things as natural as possible.

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I dont think you see what i was doing on the post. i was just using your quote to disagree with. i wasn't saying you were stupid or put you down in any way. i just dont think you get it. You come off very sensitive. Once again i apologize for getting at your nerves.

I honestly don't think you actually understand what I was doing. Generally I wouldn't bother to reply to a post like your. i was addressing a common problem on here. You just happen to be my example.

Thank you for opportunity to use you as an example. No nerves being bothered here. Let me give you a free piece of advise. Its the internet. Don't take it too serious. Again, we are not facilitating world peace.:poke:

Is it possible that the deer which sniffed at your arrow and freaked out, was freaking out at your scent that was on the arrow?

To the original question. I don't gut at a stand that I want or plan to hunt again soon. I have had several deer come up on me while gutting a deer and it did not bother them but I feel better dragging them somewhere else. IMO it is probably more of the human scent that is spread around during the gutting process than the guts themselves.

No. Wind was very clear on this. This is just one of many examples I have seen.

think of it this way. How many times have you seen a deer just ignore a new smell in an area. I bet its sorta like you going into your house and smelling rotten eggs in the hallway. Your probably going to stop and take note. Even the dirtiest, nastiest guy would stop and take note. He might not freak out. The cleanest most maticulus might freak out.

What I have noticed is not all deer are equal. They are individuals like you and I. I don't believe one can take one old story of dear old dad and let that shape his whole view of anything.

What I meant was your scent that was actually on the arrow itself when you took it from the quiver and nocked it on your string.

I agree with you about every deer being a little different though.

Never had a problem until this year and it didn't bother the deer . I dragged my son's deer to a spot naer a trail in an old vineyard and told him to gut it there . It was just off the trail . Usually gut piles don't last more than 2 days . Anyway , some animal had dragged part of the pile out onto the trail .
Apparently one of the property owner's neighbors rides his ATV on the trails and spotted it and complained . I should have selected a better spot for the pile but usually no one is ever in the the area during bow season . I know the land owner doesn't make trips through that hilly spot . He probably reacted with the info that the ATV rider gave him . However we will be more carefull in the future !

In regards to death and wild animals its a fact of nature they live with, I personally don't think it affects them like it does humans. However predicting their reaction to a scent or finding is not possible either. I'm sure we can all tell a story of a deer walking in with your wind right in his or her nose, then others who blow when everything is seemingly perfect and in your favor. One never really knows and what might work once may not work the next time...that is hunting.

About the only worry I'd have about dumping the guts where I'll be hunting soon after would be the presence of scavengers, as this can make game uneasy. However like most stated a gut pile doesn't last long in my parts so if it were a few days I won't really worry about this factor.

No right or wrong method, have to go with what has worked.

Assuming you have permission to be there, I would not worry about someone complaining.

I have found that it does not bother the other deer in my area, but I won't gut it close to my stand because I don't want to be sitting down wind and have to smell it. Usually the coyotes will have it cleaned up in a day or two though.

Just wanted to point out that I killed a coyote in the middle of a road this week and had three does and a buck walk to it, smell it, and walk on. There were guts and blood everywhere. It just proves to me that they see death everyday and it doesn't bother them. (and before anyone gets their panties in a wad, what amazed me is that a coyote is a pred). I was doubting myself after i shot it b/c even i was worried it might bother them.