Really have you seen this shot 2 days ago.... That's me in the blind not on computer. But I'm on here now just before I go out again! But thanks for tryin.
Live it up! Doug

As I was saying that I do not use a cover scent, and that I tried Deer Cane in a spray bottle last yr,, I forgot to mention that every since I started hunting (20 yrs) I have always showered in original Dawn Dish soap. And my theory of this is to degrease the hair and body which eliminates body scents, now the Dawn will have a scent but does go away in like 5 mins. There is some food for your thoughts,, lol

There is a lot of different opinions on the cover scent topic or strength of scent if you will. The first thing a person needs to know is that a human has about 5 million olfactory ( or what ever there called) glands compared to a whitetails 250 million or more and 40% of there brain is programed to read whatever it smells. That statement alone should bring things into perspective. I have been in the woods and field for 35 years, and actually out there 75% of the year because of my work. Over the coarse of that time I have learned how critters react to a lot of different things along with human pressure. During this time I have seen the population of every animal in my area go up, a lot, including humans. And as the population has increased so has the reaction of the animals changed. Do I need scent control to go out and harvest critters? No, not at all. But I can tell you this, by using scent control and some of these products I am a lot more succesful! Doesn't matter if I am trapping or hunting. The biggest reaction change I have seen occur of coarse has been from deer. In the early years if a deer saw you, more often than not, it would stand there and look at you for quite some time before trotting off, now days more often than not there gone! So, do cover scents and eliminators work? Some do some don't, but the only ones that work only work if your smart about using them. A hunters best cover scent is woodsmenship first and foremost, and second is no scent. I don't think it's a fair comparision of Fred Bear to todays hunter, because it's different. I also know that when it comes to hunting mature bucks (4 1/2 on up) anything you can do to tip the odds in your favor is a plus.

I use scent control to some extent. When I first started hunting, i bought into it all. I had every scent gimmick out there and used about every cover scent known to man. Over the years, I realized that I didnt need as much as I was using, but it was still importan. These days I wash my cloths in a non scented detergent, and i spray scent killer over my cloths and boots before i hit the woods when i get out of my truck. For me its just a 20 dollar bottle of insurance. I have been in stand, and watched a deer come up behind me, and put its nose to the ground and smell the EXACT line i used to walk into the stand a half hour earlier, and then bolt. Not only with deer, this also has happened with fox and coyote. That said, wind is king. Wind is always on my mind, and should be for hunting. Even the best scent control is pointless when you dont care about the wind. I have had deer bust me when i am upwind of them and not used scent control, because i've experimented with different levels of scent control on different hunts just to see reactions of deer. For the times i've dont it, the number of deer i see DRASTICALLY get reduced when i dont use any kind of scent control. I hunt along a lot of ridges where the wind tends to swirl a bit, and i've seen deer between 70 and 100 yards away take off because they knew something wasnt quite right as they sniffed the air. No one is gonna completely remove their scent, and its pointless to completely try. "Forget the wind, just hunt" but scentblocker brand is bogus IMO. Remembering wind direction and movement is the single most important thing any hunter can do (especially bowhunters). If i smell like smoke and pizza and work, the deer arent gonna come running in, especially if theyre downwind. Wind is important, period. Some scent control using eliminating sprays helps the wind you cant help (swirls, wind direction change ect.), as well as spraying down your boots helps with scent control as well i believe.

@ kswild.. that post = the ****ing truth good ****

Gee, who woulda thunk that? !! :happy0157:

iSnipe

Yeah,... "If ". LOL! But it's much longer than that; I know the woods. I am a bonafide woodsman.

Oh, and I hope you're not counting sitting in a Porta-Pottie filming chickens as part of that experience you talk about. LOL! jk!

iSnipe

I've posted my experience in the form of video for all to see... all you have posted is cheap talk! Don't be a hater because I live the life you only dream of!
Live it up! Doug

Nice video what kinda cam you using,I like when them turkeys come in I got a big flock where I hunt.

Thanks Blackhawk
I'm using a Vivitar DVR 840xhd on a Targus tripod
Live it up! Doug

LOL! I'm busted. How'd you know I've been dreamin' sitting in a portable crap house filming chickens struttin' by with my crooked beard with yesterday's soup for the world to see me. ??

LOL!

iSnipe

I agree 100% with the original poster.

You have to remember that hunting is an industry like any other. It's calibrated to take as much money from as many people as possible. One of the challenges for the hunting industry is establishing nondurable products that hunters buy and use up and buy again on a rapid cycle. Historically, the only element of hunting that fits this description is ammunition. A good gun, a good knife, a good set of camos, a good pair of boots--these are things that generally last years (even decades) before needing replacement. However, the modern hunting industry has established a number of "new" nondurable products, many related to ancillary areas like food plots and land management. Most of those seem to have at least some real utility and I'm sure many hunters purchase those products and gotten their money's worth and more. But the whole "bottle of stuff you spray on yourself or elsewhere to improve your hunting in relation to a deer's olfactory process" is HORSE CRAP. These products are no different than the ridiculous trinkets you see being peddled on informercials--BUY THIS SUPERFLUOUS COOKING DEVICE, AND IT'LL FIX EVERYTHING THAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR LIFE!

Actually, that's not a very fair comparison, because YOU CAN AT LEAST KNOW THAT THE COOKING DEVICE DOES BASICALLY WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO--COOK FOOD. Not so with bottled scent products. You say your hunting has improved since you started using scent products? Fine, but correlation doesn't prove causation. Maybe your hunting has improved from some other reason. Maybe through experience you've just become a better hunter. Or maybe the deer herds in the area you hunt in have changed habits. There are a million potential explanations for your improved hunting that do not involve your bottled scent product whatsoever.

So we've got a "professional hunter" on TV who's trying to sell you a product. We can't know for sure if this product works. But the guy on TV used it, shot a big buck, and then said, "Boy, this [product] sure works great, blah blah blah..." Not only is this guy being disingenuous (he has no clue whether or not the hunt would've been any different if he hadn't used the product)--HE'S SELLING THE PRODUCT! Is there any doubt that his knowing that the product helped him have a successful hunt is merely the result of his trying to get your money? Isn't it clear that any intellectually honest hunter would have to say, "I have no f'ing clue whether my hunt would've been any different if I hadn't used this stuff."

Here's a tip: if you want your hunting to improve, you have to become a better hunter. This means gaining experience, educating yourself, practicing, seeking out new hunting areas, etc. There is no shortcut to becoming a better hunter. Unless you're a "professional" hunter who has outfitters kowtowing to your every need, it's all hard won.

If you're overweight, how do you drop pounds? Do you buy some pills that you see on some dumb commercial, or do you get down to the very real work of burning calories and restricting your diet? People who continually drop their money on bottles upon bottles of these scent products are no less ridiculous than the fat people sitting on their couches ordering those magic bea--I mean, pills.

Your credibility is slipping away with every post you make. Sorry you don't like portable ground blinds and seeing wild turkeys. They are really fun to hunt you might want to try it some time. Anyway the people who have posted here can see for themselves that you have nothing USEFUL to say and they can form their own opinions to what you are all about. Have a great season and best of luck!
Live it up! Doug

kswild,

Don't know if it's due to ignorance, stupidity grumpy-and-fogie or what, the way you are, but take your pick. You say "...the people who have posted here can see for themselves...". Yes, they can see for themselves, but not what you are thinking. They are more likely thinking you have no sense of humor and are being weird about it and taking it all too seriously. LOL!

This is all in jest Huckleberry, but like the reasons I stated above, one of them is why you just don't get it. People know me here and know I've contributed a lot in helping others and have talked to many of them and they can read this post with more clarity and understanding than you've shown. LOL!

Wow, some people.

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One more thing... I have an arsenal of hunting equipment beyond what most people have because hunting and being out in the woods is something I have the luxury to enjoy. It's a passion. I have 3 ground blinds with my favorite being by ASAT. I could go on with what I have, but that's not important, but for you to error again thinking I don't know groundblinds, that's again proof how you don't get it. I don't know if I should pity you, laugh or what. Your words: "Have a great season and best of luck!" is just a show and a fake. I could do the same, but I wouldn't mean it and I'm not going to fake it. LOL!

iSnipe

Take one where there isn't one.

Many places are different and take different tactics. Going somewhere new, not just a county over and acting the part in an area you know nothing about is the real test. If you know the place well you hunt in then yes it's all possible (I can tell you the spot in my woods that the deer will exit and just about the time) But if it's all knew a guy needs all the help he can get. I enjoy hunting new places every year and have learned the hard way that unless I take every advantage, it's just a scouting trip.

I'd be bored hunting the same places every year and even the native Americans used cover scents. So, as far as keeping tradition alive I think I am.

What I think the problem is here is to much tv. I have no idea what is being talked about when people claim there's a huge sell on scent products, I never see or hear it.

sad part about this is you can make your own cover scent if you need it for free.

kswild...you do come off as a know it all. You need to chill out and realize you are not the only one who has ever killed an animal. Live it up....