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where did i hit this doe @?
i had a blade broke off my broadhead.... a few deer hairs.... and a few spots of peachish colored blood.... there was no blood on the ground that i saw...and no big clumps of hair.... i hit this deer..... shot was 42 yards and when she ran off it was just a jog i thought i smoked her....i wait 3 hours and found a few drops of peachy blood and like 6 strains of white hair....on my arrow.....
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sounds like a gut shot....what broad head were you using?...what are the temps there?
rule of thumb, ya dont leave one spot of blood til ya see the next one..dont let someone, or yourself, walk ahead and mess up all the sign..look fer fresh tracks to help guide you..usually the path of least resistance is the way to go, but dont go forward til ya see the next drop. if you looked fer 20 minutes and cant find blood..spiral out in 8 inch circles round and round til ya spot the next blood sign ..gl |
realtree fixed.... and one of the damn blades broke off....i know i smoked her.... but there wasnt very much blood on my arrow and only like 6 strain of hair on the arrow...and none on the ground
it was water blood like a peach color not red |
probably broke off in the deer....42 yards is a bit much..even at 350fps, they hear the bow go off and flinch, duck, jump and run....what did she do?
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Im guessing brisket if you lost some blades and have white hair. If it was the belly, I don't know why you would lose a blade unless you stuck it in the leg on the other side.
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Originally Posted by runko
(Post 3698881)
i had a blade broke off my broadhead.... a few deer hairs.... and a few spots of peachish colored blood.... there was no blood on the ground that i saw...and no big clumps of hair.... i hit this deer..... shot was 42 yards and when she ran off it was just a jog i thought i smoked her....i wait 3 hours and found a few drops of peachy blood and like 6 strains of white hair....on my arrow.....
any help would be nice Live it up! Doug |
White hair would mean to me it was hit low. possibly the sternum, where the ribs meet.
peach means there is other fluid mixed with the blood. your best bet is to give some time then go looking hours later. you may not have killed her but wounded |
Low hit in the gut area if you found white hair. Chance's of finding her are slim to none, probably have a better chance of shooting her again because I really doubt she died.
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Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3698915)
Unless your a very experienced hunter with a bow maybe you should stick to the 20 yard range. Sounds like 40 yards is out of your range. Instead of asking us where you hit her, you should be able to tell us where you hit her. If you are not SURE don't take the shot! I know you guys come here for help and sometimes the best help is to have someone tell you to pay attention to what your doing. This is a classic case of not knowing your limits. Out of range + not knowing your limits = Bad Shot! There is no excuse for this kind of irresponsibility.
Live it up! Doug |
Originally Posted by stabnslab_WI
(Post 3698935)
Wow! I think he was asking advice not to get judge by someone that is retired and bored out of his mind. You don't judge people at the bingo hall do you? Im sure he feels bad for making a not so good shot but its all part of the learning process. Make a mistake learn from it.
Live it up! Doug |
Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3698941)
Don't know cause #1 I'm not retired and #2 don't play bingo. I spend 90% on my time in the woods hunting or filming. If you you want to give a group hug after a irresponsible shot be my guest. Sometimes people need to hear it like it is....Not " Oh it's ok" feel good crap! This is hunting bud, it's not a freakin video game. And making a bad shot is NOT part of the learning process... using common sense and good judgment IS. You don't wound an animal in order to learn how to kill it! You learn how to kill in order not to wound it!
Live it up! Doug |
Originally Posted by stabnslab_WI
(Post 3698943)
Lol...Isn't that what we do now days, comfort and say everything is ok? Your point is taken but and Im sorry its always a learning process. You can use all the common sense and good judgement you want but mistakes will happen. It happens doug, it happens and you learn from it.
Live it up! Doug |
One thing for sure, you didn't "smoke her". White hair means belly, butt, somewhere there is white hair. Best bet would probably be to find someone that has a blood dog, tho from what I have read here I don't think you will find the deer. 42 yards is too far for a beginner, and most others.
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Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3698947)
I understand bad shots happen to us all. Yes we need to learn from them. I being the Dad I am would tell my sons or daughters the exact same thing I posted here. But I would not shoot an animal and then go on a public forum and ask "Where did I hit it" I have taken shots longer than 40 yrds with a bow and I could tell you exactly where I hit the animal within a few inches. But you have to pay attention to what your are doing and do some projectile management... KNOW before you release that arrow or pull that trigger WHERE that projectile is going. NOT shoot first and WONDER where it went. Tough Love baby!
Live it up! Doug |
Originally Posted by stabnslab_WI
(Post 3698957)
I was brought up the same way, arrows are like words or bullets, once released there is no bringing them back.
Live it up! Doug |
reguardless....you should spend the next 2 days in the woods looking for her, if you dont find her, those 2 days in the woods not hunting, but searching, will probably sway you from taking a not so good shot next time....dont hafazz this, its what will separate you from a hunter, or a wanna be hunter.go out and look.
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Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3698960)
Sound Wisdom! :happy0001:
Live it up! Doug |
@ kswild seriously? ive been bow hunting for 5 years... so noobie i think not....
day was just breaking and i found the doe this pm... i just shoted her... 125 yards from where she was... everyone makes bad shots... ive killed deer in the 55 yardish range .... as this bein an online community of hunters... i wanted yall input but never yours again.. |
@ kswild seriously? ive been bow hunting for 5 years... so noobie i think not....
day was just breaking and i found the doe this pm... i just shoted her... 125 yards from where she was... everyone makes bad shots... ive killed deer in the 55 yardish range .... as this bein an online community of hunters... i wanted yall input but never yours again.. |
and one of the damn blades broke off....i know i smoked her.... Now that you recovered her, fill everyone in on where the hit was, what broke the blade, type of broadhead etc. Posting a pic would be great. Congrats. |
no offense bud but maybe you should spell check before you post. Although what kswild said was kinda harsh, its real. Although we kill deer we dont hate them, we respect them. Never take a shot your not sure of or you will possibly wound the animal. Obviously we all make bad shots and I am definately not perfect, but when you post stuff like a 42 yard shot expect to get that kind of response.
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Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3698915)
Unless your a very experienced hunter with a bow maybe you should stick to the 20 yard range. Sounds like 40 yards is out of your range. Instead of asking us where you hit her, you should be able to tell us where you hit her. If you are not SURE don't take the shot! I know you guys come here for help and sometimes the best help is to have someone tell you to pay attention to what your doing. This is a classic case of not knowing your limits. Out of range + not knowing your limits = Bad Shot! There is no excuse for this kind of irresponsibility.
Live it up! Doug
Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3698941)
Don't know cause #1 I'm not retired and #2 don't play bingo. I spend 90% of my time in the woods hunting or filming. If you want to give a group hug after a irresponsible shot be my guest. Sometimes people need to hear it like it is....Not " Oh it's ok" feel good crap! This is hunting bud, it's not a freakin video game. And making a bad shot is NOT part of the learning process... using common sense and good judgment IS. You don't wound an animal in order to learn how to kill it! You learn how to kill it in order not to wound it!
Live it up! Doug
Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3698947)
I understand bad shots happen to us all. Yes we need to learn from them. I being the Dad I am would tell my sons or daughters the exact same thing I posted here. But I would not shoot an animal and then go on a public forum and ask "Where did I hit it" I have taken shots longer than 40 yrds with a bow and I could tell you exactly where I hit the animal within a few inches. But you have to pay attention to what you are doing and do some projectile management... KNOW before you release that arrow or pull that trigger WHERE that projectile is going. NOT shoot first and WONDER where it went. Tough Love baby!
Live it up! Doug |
Originally Posted by runko
(Post 3699100)
@ kswild seriously? ive been bow hunting for 5 years... so noobie i think not....
day was just breaking and i found the doe this pm... i just shoted her... 125 yards from where she was... everyone makes bad shots... ive killed deer in the 55 yardish range .... as this bein an online community of hunters... i wanted yall input but never yours again.. Live it up! Doug |
Originally Posted by kyslayer
(Post 3699125)
no offense bud but maybe you should spell check before you post. Although what kswild said was kinda harsh, its real. Although we kill deer we dont hate them, we respect them. Never take a shot your not sure of or you will possibly wound the animal. Obviously we all make bad shots and I am definately not perfect, but when you post stuff like a 42 yard shot expect to get that kind of response.
What kswild said wasn't kinda harsh!! it was harsh!! and it should be!!!, one of the first things a hunter should learn is to respect his or hers "target" This guy is talking about "Smoking it" "I smoked it" that is just disrespectful "Trash" talk, Hell, he didn't even know where he hit it!!!!!!!, Doc |
i agree 100% It sucks to have to pass a shot cause of the distance but it sucks even more to wound a nice deer and find its remains two days later chewed up from coyotes and opposums!
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Originally Posted by DocD
(Post 3699139)
Well said, and I agree BUT!
What kswild said wasn't kinda harsh!! it was harsh!! and it should be!!!, one of the first things a hunter should learn is to respect his or hers "target" This guy is talking about "Smoking it" "I smoked it" that is just disrespectful "Trash" talk, Hell, he didn't even know where he hit it!!!!!!!, Doc Live it up! Doug |
smoked that bitch! ummmm where did i hit it again?
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wheres this pic at
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he is still tracking.... that was just a post to shut everyone up
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Wow!! Im staying out of Northern Kentucky and Kansas. Has anybody seen the movie deliverance?
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thanks for all the input....
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Originally Posted by stabnslab_WI
(Post 3699311)
Wow!! Im staying out of Northern Kentucky and Kansas. Has anybody seen the movie deliverance?
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Originally Posted by runko
(Post 3699343)
thanks for all the input....
I'm not going to butter it up either. I'm sitting on the same fence as kswild and doc. Not once have I shot a deer and not know where I hit it. When I say I "smoked one" that means I just saw my arrow sink right into the boiler room. 42 yards in low light conditions is not a wise choice for a shot. |
Originally Posted by 2 Lunger
(Post 3699762)
So where did you hit her at? I would kinda like to know. Maybe we can all take something from the tracking sign that you got.
I'm not going to butter it up either. I'm sitting on the same fence as kswild and doc. Not once have I shot a deer and not know where I hit it. When I say I "smoked one" that means I just saw my arrow sink right into the boiler room. 42 yards in low light conditions is not a wise choice for a shot. my Ass Im call you out saying you shot that thing in cover of darkness.Weather or not it was legal hour for to shoot is another story, but that animal was just a black silohet in front of you and it was black and blacker ,every where else.Was any light appearing over the horizon yet?If you shot that animal in low light you should have easily found that animal in a couple of hours max, most hunters in 10 minutes. Couple of hours if you include a waiting period,10 min if you know you had a kill shot. Reguardless how much or little blood was on the ground an experienced hunter would have found it hours before you did.Know where you shoot, limit your shooting distance to where you can shoot and hit the kill zone and for Christ sake shoot at a time when you can see. |
Same fence
as kswild, doc, and kyslayer. Know your max distance and stay with it, even if it means letting a record book buck pass. Let it pass at 40 yards today, and maybe take a 20 yard shot tomorrow.:wink:
Just sayin! |
If I see white hair, I'm not saying "I smoked him", I am saying - "Oh ****" because it was a low shot that most likely went through the gut.
Guys with experience will know this and immediately form a tracking plan. Picking up the trail three hours after seeing white hair when you are unsure of the POI is another indication you have a lot more to learn, especially when you have the whole day ahead of you. I have to admit, you got what was coming to you because all the sign pointed to a bad shot under poor shooting light at a distance that is beyond what most bow hunters would take. With poor light, my shot selection becomes extremely limited. |
Armpit hair is white and that's not bad!! How many people here has used the opposite leg as a guide. I have shot a buck, had a lot of white hair mixed with brown hair and found the deer within forty yards. But I agree, white hair is bad "most" of the time.
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