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Lanse couche couche 01-05-2010 10:55 AM

GW's have such broad powers and the laws can be very complicated and are often only briefly summarized in whatever annual booklet a given state provides to the point that they can give you a pretty good hassle about any time that they want. As with any group of folks in positions of authority, there are always gonna be a few bad apples. I have no complaint about my single encounter with a GW and actually enjoyed hanging out and talking with him for about 15 minutes after he checked me.

uncle matt 01-05-2010 11:02 AM

I think one thing folks in IL often overlook is that out CPOs are not strictly "game wardens" and that they are fully sworn state troopers of the Illinois State Police.

Krypt Keeper 01-05-2010 03:31 PM

Never had a run in with one yet while out hunting. I did get the chance to meet our local GW when my brother in law called in that a deer had been hit by a car and was still alive barely. GW got there from a old back road my brother in law had pulled into. My bro-in law shot the injured deer, however he had turned off his truck and left his headlights on. His battery had died enough to not start his truck. Called me to being some jumper cables. The GW was stuck on the road as it was several miles of backing up to get out otherwise.

We had a few minutes to kill and eat some deer jerky I had made while we let the battery charge some off the GW's truck. When we left I gave the rest of the jerky to the GW as he said he loves hunting but being the GW doesn't give him much time to actually hunt.

jrfrmn 01-05-2010 06:44 PM

Game warden
 
What state do you live in?



Originally Posted by UncleNorby (Post 3546970)
I remember a few years back (more than a few) in NH, during the Meredith Rotary Icefishing Derby (prizes given for tagged rainbow trout), we met 2 wardens. We had quite a party out there, both in numbers and in liquid refreshment. Each person is allowed 2 lines (we were using tip-ups). Just before the wardens came by, about a third of the group (women and kids) decided to go to a shore-front house and use the bathroom. The rest of us stayed out there, but we had the sense to roll up the lines and remove the bait. We left the lines in the water so the spools would not freeze, but the flags were all still set.

The wardens roll up on their snowmobiles. They make a quick count of the number of guys, then the lines. This one warden starts licking his chops and pulls out his book of tickets. They take this smart-ass tone and ask if we know how many lines per person is legal. We all say, yeah - two. Then they ask all of us to stand by one tip-up and point to your other one. After quite a debate as to what line belongs to which guy, we do that. Then the warden walks to one of the odd lines and says, Now whose is this? I explain it belongs to either a kid or one of the women that went to shore. He didn't believe that one bit, he just knew he had us. Then he told me they were still against the law because the other people were not present. I told him they were not illegal, because they were rolled up and had no bait. Then he says, So you mean to tell me if I pull this line out of the water (at the same time grabbing it and pulling it out, snagging the spool on the ice and badly bending the axle), the line will be rolled up with no bait on the hook?" I said, well, see for yourself. He looked at the spool and his jaw dropped a foot. He then checked two more for good measure. Then he looked inside the shanty we had. There he found a jig-pole with a wet piece of cut-bait. He said, Now how do you explain this? The bait is still wet, so somebody was just using it and had too many lines. I said I brought it in earlier and the bait was covered in snow/ice, and it was thawing because the shanty was warm. The warden's face was getting red, and not from the cold.

Then he checked licenses, all legal. Then he asked if the other folks that were returning had licenses. I replied, What do you think? A new shade of red appeared.

Then he asked if we caught any fish. I said, Yeah, but the ones we caught had these tags in them and we let them go because we figured they were part of a research study. The rest of the guys burst out laughing. This really upset them good, and they started walking to their machines. I asked where I should send the bill for the damaged tip-up. More laughter from the rest of the guys. The one warden kept walking and the other said "sorry about that" and they just got on their machines and rode off.

Whenever that day comes up in conversation, we have a pretty good laugh.


UncleNorby 01-06-2010 03:26 AM

I live in Indiana now. The story was from when I lived in NH.

Buck Hunter 1 01-06-2010 04:38 AM

Not real happy w/ the current batch in western PA. I wait em' out now as they are consistent in spots where hunters exit the woods and hassle ya' if you come out at dark.. Well heck, I am pretty far back in it will be dark when I come out as it is dark when I go in. I would prefer a decent conversation instead of to being made to feel like i have done something wrong. Every ? asked seems loaded for a investigation type law enforcement response which the PGC has turned into and makes it's money off! They have lost respect for the people they work for and now we have lost respect for them! It should come as no suprise! No I have never been cited nor has anyone in our camp! We folow the rules !

OregonHunter5 01-06-2010 11:41 AM

here is oregon the reports seem to be on the negative side. i have not witnessed this yet. years back in idaho my dad, grampa, and brothers got pulled over by a gw. he was a lets say, not a nice person.. well later on down the road a few years, him and another gw decided to go and check on a guy living off the land in idaho. this was like 30 years ago. they had a tough guy attitude before they got there. they knew he was killing some deer to live. they got there, they saw some meat hangin in his wall tent. they decided to get pushy with the guy, so the dude shot them both dead. droped them in the river, and ran like hell! he was arrested later down the road. was in the idaho state prison for some years, then broke out.. on the run again. they caught him later and through him back in the pokee. served his time. now is out.
teo lessons here.
1. dont be a tuff guy all the time.
2. when a prisoner just flat out walks away from the state pin, get your story straight.
thats right, he just walked out.

iSnipe 01-07-2010 02:22 AM

OregonHunter5,

I think many people feel Claude was dealt with improperly by those 2 CO's. On that same token, many people feel Claude's actions were calculated considering he said he saw them coming from afar. It's hard to say how it really went down.

iSnipe

vabyrd 01-07-2010 03:55 AM

If you own land of any size, they are good to know. Those guys have a tough job and are lucky to hunt at all.

In my college days I skipped class a bit to go fly fishing. My buddy and I had all the right stamps and licenses, but the wrong permission slip for the "Fly Fishing" only stream we were on. GW came by. After checking our docs, he said "Bad news is I have to right you fellas tickets, good news is I'll give you the correct permission slip and tell you which flies to use"

Best $50.00 I ever spent.....

Lanse couche couche 01-07-2010 07:23 AM

I don't think that shooting two game wardens, including one who wasn't even armed, then administering killing head shots with a .22 while both are laying wounded and helpless on the ground should be an acceptable course of action against GW's even if they are being heavy handed.

I read one of the biographies of Dallas and he was killing much more game than he needed to survive and was even giving meat away he had so much, according to some eyewitness accounts.


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