Running dogs on public land is disruptive, IMO...
#11
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 16
I don't know anything about deer hunting with dogs because I've never done it, but I do know that coon hunting with dogs has zero impact on deer hunting. I've learned this from experience and from this study:
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/publi...coonimpact.pdf
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/publi...coonimpact.pdf
#12
I don't know anything about deer hunting with dogs because I've never done it, but I do know that coon hunting with dogs has zero impact on deer hunting. I've learned this from experience and from this study:
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/publi...coonimpact.pdf
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/publi...coonimpact.pdf
Look at the amount of photos taken in the study.
Look at the amount of bait stations that were in that study.
With all that human activity, the deer were already acclimated to human activity even before the study started! These weren't "wild" deer per se', but deer already introduced to human intrusion... and a lot of it.
Of course very little deer, if any, moved away from their home range. Their home range is LARGE and would take a considerable amount of intrusion for them to move. These deer were so familiar with human activity, intrusion and their comings and goings, you could have ran a high school marching band through there and deer couldn't care less.
Try using untainted deer and see the results then. From just a few months, there has been many posts here about lack of deer sightings after dogs have been run through an area. That's all I need to know over any study about what happens to deer when this happens! It's called a "Real world study".
iSnipe
#13
I wish I was near a couple dogs today! I froze my butt off. Sitting there waiting for a deer, tracks all over the place, and nothing! O'well can't win'em all. I don't think they move much now? Maybe they bed closer to the field? Man I wish I new someone with a couple dogs I'ld get them deer moving.....
#14
Three times this year my and my kids hunt have been interrupted by people doing man drives. Most of them couldn't hunt a deer if their life depended on it. The line up the dirt roads and send a half dozen people through a stretch of woods and run everything out of there and blast away anything they see, legal or not.
It's down right dangerous and disrespectful to other hunters.
Thankfully on this particular WMA there are designated areas for running dogs and I don't go near them. I wish there were designated areas for man drives as well.
It's down right dangerous and disrespectful to other hunters.
Thankfully on this particular WMA there are designated areas for running dogs and I don't go near them. I wish there were designated areas for man drives as well.
#15
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Polk City, FL
Posts: 232
Down here there are some WMAs that allow dogs and others that don't. One that does allow dogs connects to the one I hunt, but access (well, legal access) is quite a distance. Some people hunt the border waiting for deer to get pushed over the fence. To each his own. I would try it given the opportunity in a legal area.
#17
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: e Tn
Posts: 15
well i truly think the days of the dog hunters are numbered.i was raised up running dogs for coons,rabbits & squirrels,Tn didn't have any deer to speak of til the late 80's,a dog cant read & will do what they are bred to do.to much $ is invested in leasing property for hunting & folks are going to put a stop to trespassing dogs & folks no matter the cost.i know i wont cross over on other folks to hunt & if i did i would deserve a ticket.you can expect no less for a dog.a lot of folks advocate SSS,i dont have the heart for it unless im threatened by the dog.dog owners & non dog owners need to be separated on public property by more than imaginary lines,each deserve their own place with out disturbing others,thats something thats not possible unless more public land is made available,im afraid they have quit making any more land & the $ need to purchase are just not there.add in the population rise over the next 50 years & its a gloomy forecast for any type of hunter .we have it better than any time in the last 100 years but most fail to understand or appreciate that fact,lets try to get along & look at it from the other side of the fence,mike300wm
#18
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 16
I've only briefly read that over and I can see right away the study was flawed.
Look at the amount of photos taken in the study.
Look at the amount of bait stations that were in that study.
With all that human activity, the deer were already acclimated to human activity even before the study started! These weren't "wild" deer per se', but deer already introduced to human intrusion... and a lot of it.
Of course very little deer, if any, moved away from their home range. Their home range is LARGE and would take a considerable amount of intrusion for them to move. These deer were so familiar with human activity, intrusion and their comings and goings, you could have ran a high school marching band through there and deer couldn't care less.
Try using untainted deer and see the results then. From just a few months, there has been many posts here about lack of deer sightings after dogs have been run through an area. That's all I need to know over any study about what happens to deer when this happens! It's called a "Real world study".
iSnipe
Look at the amount of photos taken in the study.
Look at the amount of bait stations that were in that study.
With all that human activity, the deer were already acclimated to human activity even before the study started! These weren't "wild" deer per se', but deer already introduced to human intrusion... and a lot of it.
Of course very little deer, if any, moved away from their home range. Their home range is LARGE and would take a considerable amount of intrusion for them to move. These deer were so familiar with human activity, intrusion and their comings and goings, you could have ran a high school marching band through there and deer couldn't care less.
Try using untainted deer and see the results then. From just a few months, there has been many posts here about lack of deer sightings after dogs have been run through an area. That's all I need to know over any study about what happens to deer when this happens! It's called a "Real world study".
iSnipe
I have my own real world study that has had me kill a deer only a few feet away from the tree I had treed a coon in several hours before. This seems to go right along with what the study shows.
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NW Oklahoma
Posts: 1,166
I used to hunt a property with a creek running right through the middle of it. A couple of times a season someone's coon dogs would run up that creek and it would kill the deer hunting for nearly a week each time.