What is the range of a shotgun for deer?
12-29-2009 | 02:19 PM
#31
Spike
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Interesting wager on the 100 yards with buckshot. He does have to push the pellets at least 6 or more inches into target as well right? You could get him a block target and put the vitals poster on that.
I've never shot buckshot before but I didn't know that buckshot kept that much velocity at 100 yards.
I've never shot buckshot before but I didn't know that buckshot kept that much velocity at 100 yards.
12-29-2009 | 06:08 PM
#32
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Interesting wager on the 100 yards with buckshot. He does have to push the pellets at least 6 or more inches into target as well right? You could get him a block target and put the vitals poster on that.
I've never shot buckshot before but I didn't know that buckshot kept that much velocity at 100 yards.
I've never shot buckshot before but I didn't know that buckshot kept that much velocity at 100 yards.
That would be step two. I seriously doubt we would get past step one
12-29-2009 | 06:58 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
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From: Titusville Florida
Your a high roller no doubt. Wife would cut my nads off if I risked 50 bills of family funds on this. I realize 5 large is nothing for a roller like yourself. But I am fairly tempted. As I don't think you could do it consistently. Decisions, decisions. On one hand, probably sinnful as all get out for two believers to try to drain each other. On the other hand, it would be good HNI fun for all.
Before the choice is made, let me understand.
Let me get this right, if I put 5 large into escrow (of your choice) and you do the same of course, you would fly up to BWI, I would pick you up and it would be on?
Terms would be you have to put at least 2 pellets of 00 buckshot 3" mag (no more than 16 pellets) from 12ga of choice into the vitals of a std deer target (well have to figure that one out). This shot is made at 300 lasered feet. Vitals will consist of heart, lungs, and I will even throw in the liver. This can be freehand, or off of a tripod or leaning against a tree. You would need to pull this off 4 out of 5 shots. You only get 5 shots. 5 full size deer targets. Each target replaced after the each shot. And 4 would need to have at least 2 pellet thru said vitals.
Before the choice is made, let me understand.
Let me get this right, if I put 5 large into escrow (of your choice) and you do the same of course, you would fly up to BWI, I would pick you up and it would be on?
Terms would be you have to put at least 2 pellets of 00 buckshot 3" mag (no more than 16 pellets) from 12ga of choice into the vitals of a std deer target (well have to figure that one out). This shot is made at 300 lasered feet. Vitals will consist of heart, lungs, and I will even throw in the liver. This can be freehand, or off of a tripod or leaning against a tree. You would need to pull this off 4 out of 5 shots. You only get 5 shots. 5 full size deer targets. Each target replaced after the each shot. And 4 would need to have at least 2 pellet thru said vitals.
If you two guys really want to bet on this, I suggest that the test be done correctly. How about shooting a 12" thick block of ballistics gellatin that is covered with a deer hide. I say that you should be able to hit it with a minimum of four pellets(not two), and they should penetrate to the point that the pellets reach the skin on the off side, and preferably exit the other side.
01-10-2010 | 11:17 AM
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In order to be an ethical hunter, it is your responsibility to use a caliber that can not only hit a deer in the vitals, but the round also has to carry enough energy at that distance to insure a quick and humane kill. I would just like everyone to consider that one 00 buckshot pellet carries the same amount of energy at 40 yards that a .22LR has at the muzzle. A round pellet is also the least aerodynamic shape for a projectile, and they slow down at an ever increasing rate as they travel downrange. Most guns will also throw such a large pattern, that it would be almost impossible to miss a deer completely. This leaves more deer wounded than killed, just talk to any deer processor that's from an area where buckshot is used by a large number of hunters. They'll tell you stories of deer with infections and gangreen that was caused by buckshot pellets.
If you two guys really want to bet on this, I suggest that the test be done correctly. How about shooting a 12" thick block of ballistics gellatin that is covered with a deer hide. I say that you should be able to hit it with a minimum of four pellets(not two), and they should penetrate to the point that the pellets reach the skin on the off side, and preferably exit the other side.
If you two guys really want to bet on this, I suggest that the test be done correctly. How about shooting a 12" thick block of ballistics gellatin that is covered with a deer hide. I say that you should be able to hit it with a minimum of four pellets(not two), and they should penetrate to the point that the pellets reach the skin on the off side, and preferably exit the other side.
I will supply the bullistic gell.
Alex, calling you out. Where you at?
01-11-2010 | 09:44 AM
#37
Typical Buck
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I have a Mossberg 500 model 12 Ga Shotgun about 25 Years old it has a 30 Inch Barrel and full choke, I have taken deer with Double 00 buck at 100 Yards , it will also group 4 inch groups with slugs at 100 Yards.I have down ducks that no one dare to shoot at that the hight they were flying, shot turkey on the head at 40 Yards, dove shot with a lot of accuracy.
If you can find one like that buy it, probably you can get one for around $150, best pump shotgun ever made for the money,IMO.
If you can find one like that buy it, probably you can get one for around $150, best pump shotgun ever made for the money,IMO.
LOL
01-11-2010 | 09:53 AM
#39
Typical Buck
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Your a high roller no doubt. Wife would cut my nads off if I risked 50 bills of family funds on this. I realize 5 large is nothing for a roller like yourself. But I am fairly tempted. As I don't think you could do it consistently. Decisions, decisions. On one hand, probably sinnful as all get out for two believers to try to drain each other. On the other hand, it would be good HNI fun for all.
Before the choice is made, let me understand.
Let me get this right, if I put 5 large into escrow (of your choice) and you do the same of course, you would fly up to BWI, I would pick you up and it would be on?
Terms would be you have to put at least 2 pellets of 00 buckshot 3" mag (no more than 16 pellets) from 12ga of choice into the vitals of a std deer target (well have to figure that one out). This shot is made at 300 lasered feet. Vitals will consist of heart, lungs, and I will even throw in the liver. This can be freehand, or off of a tripod or leaning against a tree. You would need to pull this off 4 out of 5 shots. You only get 5 shots. 5 full size deer targets. Each target replaced after the each shot. And 4 would need to have at least 2 pellet thru said vitals.
Before the choice is made, let me understand.
Let me get this right, if I put 5 large into escrow (of your choice) and you do the same of course, you would fly up to BWI, I would pick you up and it would be on?
Terms would be you have to put at least 2 pellets of 00 buckshot 3" mag (no more than 16 pellets) from 12ga of choice into the vitals of a std deer target (well have to figure that one out). This shot is made at 300 lasered feet. Vitals will consist of heart, lungs, and I will even throw in the liver. This can be freehand, or off of a tripod or leaning against a tree. You would need to pull this off 4 out of 5 shots. You only get 5 shots. 5 full size deer targets. Each target replaced after the each shot. And 4 would need to have at least 2 pellet thru said vitals.
01-11-2010 | 11:05 AM
#40
Giant Nontypical
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From: Darien, IL
Before this gets snowballing I would like to say that I think some people have a much more difficult time accurately establishing distances (ranges) than others do.
It is my opinion that many people truly do believe what the are saying. Not saying that they are right - just that they believe it.
Many of these folks can throw footballs well over a hundred yards also.
It is my opinion that many people truly do believe what the are saying. Not saying that they are right - just that they believe it.
Many of these folks can throw footballs well over a hundred yards also.