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driftrider 12-05-2009 06:10 PM

Shotguns shooting shot are legal. I'm pretty sure that any firearm shooting a single projectile is illegal.

Mike

bigbulls 12-05-2009 06:33 PM


Could someone provide me with the rules governing waterways and private property. And with rules I mean cited laws not what you thinks or have been told.
http://www.adventuresports.com/river...law-public.htm

http://www.adventuresports.com/river...w-who-owns.htm

In Florida...

Prohibited methods and equipment for taking game

* Shooting from vehicles, powerboats or sailboats moving under
power. Motors must be shut off or sails furled, and the vessel’s
progress must cease from such motor or sail before hunters may
shoot wildlife.
*Discharging firearms over paved public roads, rights-of-way,
highways, streets or occupied premises is prohibited.
* Shooting or propelling potentially lethal projectiles over or across
private land without authorization in order to take game is considered
criminal trespassing and is a felony.


vabyrd 12-05-2009 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 3520725)
Could someone provide me with the rules governing waterways and private property. And with rules I mean cited laws not what you thinks or have been told. I have been told that property owners own the river (pretty sure it is false). I have been told that they own the ground under the river. (I don't know one way or the other). I have also been told that the high water mark of a navigable river is a public easement even if there is no water at that level currently.

Lots and lots of answers, but I have never been able to have a person cite the law supporting their veiw of river access through private property.

you have to read the deeds. Some are high water mark, some are to the middle. Your probably not going to find a one size fits all answer I would guess. I know where I am, you better keep your butt in the boat unless you know someone.

turkey guide 12-05-2009 10:30 PM

In Missouri deer cannot be shot in water and cannot be shot from a boat that is moving or has a motor running.

teedub31 12-06-2009 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by vabyrd (Post 3520803)
you have to read the deeds. Some are high water mark, some are to the middle. Your probably not going to find a one size fits all answer I would guess. I know where I am, you better keep your butt in the boat unless you know someone.

This is why I asked.

Read the post above you and see what the courts have said about this. The deed means nothing when it comes to the river. Court law has deemed public access to the high water mark and below with the underlaying bed still public property.

Murder someone in the river because you claim tresspassing and see how life/bubba treats you. It would almost be considered premideitated as posts like yours indicated you intend to take action in the future should it arise and that it did not arise out of passion and possible be considered manslaughter.

Bob S 12-06-2009 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by bandgod (Post 3519896)
How many of you would vote for a regulation in your state if it read as such?

"Float hunting (on a river, lake, pond, stream) through private land with the intent to kill deer is prohibited unless prior authorization from the landowner has been granted. Float hunting where water borders public land is permissible"

Yes or no would be good and if your state already has some sort of regulation like this would be nice to know as well. Any additional thoughts?

That is already pretty close to the law in Michigan. Hunting rights belong to the riparian land owner.

vabyrd 12-06-2009 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 3521087)
This is why I asked.

Read the post above you and see what the courts have said about this. The deed means nothing when it comes to the river. Court law has deemed public access to the high water mark and below with the underlaying bed still public property.

Murder someone in the river because you claim tresspassing and see how life/bubba treats you. It would almost be considered premideitated as posts like yours indicated you intend to take action in the future should it arise and that it did not arise out of passion and possible be considered manslaughter.

WTF are you talking about? Who said anything about killing someone? Are you friggin nuts? Look here stupid, if you are in a boat on a river, you don't get out and do stupid crap unless you have permission or are on public land. If you think your going to float down a river and shoot deer between the waters edge and the bank, you're stupid.

No one said anything about shooting someone, except you. Nutjob.

teedub31 12-06-2009 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by vabyrd (Post 3521120)
WTF are you talking about? Who said anything about killing someone? Are you friggin nuts? Look here stupid, if you are in a boat on a river, you don't get out and do stupid crap unless you have permission or are on public land. If you think your going to float down a river and shoot deer between the waters edge and the bank, you're stupid.

No one said anything about shooting someone, except you. Nutjob.

I misinterpreted you "I know where I am at, you better keep your butt in the boat" as a threat that I hear all the time from where I am from. Landowners in my neck of the woods think they own the river bed and claim that they will protect themselves from tresspassers on "their land" and that getting out of a boat and placing a foot on the river bed constitutes tresspassing and an attack on their personal sovreignty cause their deed fradulently says they own half the river.


My post/question was about river rights and access and the law as it applies to public/private ownership and what constitutes trespass because most landowners really don't know near as much about the leagalities of the river running through their property as they think they do. I never brought up the hunting issue or shooting deer on private land.

iSnipe 12-06-2009 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by vabyrd (Post 3521120)
WTF are you talking about? Who said anything about killing someone? Are you friggin nuts? Look here stupid, if you are in a boat on a river, you don't get out and do stupid crap unless you have permission or are on public land. If you think your going to float down a river and shoot deer between the waters edge and the bank, you're stupid.

No one said anything about shooting someone, except you. Nutjob.

vabyrd, You owe a new keyboard. I 'bout choked and spit out my Sunkist lemonade all over it when I read that. LOL! That's funny! Nutjob and I had a few words way back when, but it's so much more fun hearing it from someone else. LOL!

iSnipe :patriot:


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