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bandgod 12-04-2009 04:42 PM

new regulation vote
 
How many of you would vote for a regulation in your state if it read as such?

"Float hunting (on a river, lake, pond, stream) through private land with the intent to kill deer is prohibited unless prior authorization from the landowner has been granted. Float hunting where water borders public land is permissible"

Yes or no would be good and if your state already has some sort of regulation like this would be nice to know as well. Any additional thoughts?

driftrider 12-04-2009 04:51 PM

How about just making it illegal to shoot a rifle over water? That's the law in Iowa.

Mike

iSnipe 12-04-2009 04:56 PM

My first instincts, and without much thought, is to vote "Yes" on such a regulation. Most all the deer will be on land... land that belongs to someone who pays the taxes and is owner of that land. A very small percentage will be in the water and when you take a shot, most likely will run up on shore onto someone's else's property.

Now I haven't considered this enough to make an educated decision, so I'm curious as to the replies because there may be good reason to vote "No', although I can't see that happening at the moment.

iSnipe

salukipv1 12-04-2009 06:19 PM

?

This is the worst proposal ever!

From my western game research I do, I believe there are some great units that are entirely blocked by private land unless you float a river to get to them, so this is what I envision when you talk about such a proposal, essentially any public land that is locked by private land would now become un usable by such a law and therefore I totally would not be in favor of it.

bigbulls 12-04-2009 06:38 PM

Against it as it is worded right now.

It should read something like....

"Float hunting (on a river, lake, pond, stream) within the confines of private land with the intent to kill deer within that private land is prohibited unless prior authorization from the landowner has been granted.

Float hunting with the intent to kill deer on public land where water borders public land is permissible.

Floating (on a river, lake, pond, stream) through private land with the intent to access public land that is bordered by the river, lake, pond, or stream that the hunter is floating on is permissible.

Shooting big game animals that are in water is prohibited"



bandgod 12-05-2009 03:35 AM

I like the new wording. My intent would not be to discourage people from hunting where the land is public or from accessing public ground by boat.

iSnipe 12-05-2009 08:52 AM

Yes, I like the new amending. I knew I was missing something.

Had a person want to float through water, in reference to deer hunting, with private land on both sides, they wouldn't be able to as the current wording stands. The amended version would allow such a float if the party wanted to pass through to get to public land.

So "No" on the 1st version.

iSnipe

vabyrd 12-05-2009 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by bigbulls (Post 3520013)
Against it as it is worded right now.

It should read something like....

"Float hunting (on a river, lake, pond, stream) within the confines of private land with the intent to kill deer within that private land is prohibited unless prior authorization from the landowner has been granted.

Float hunting with the intent to kill deer on public land where water borders public land is permissible.

Floating (on a river, lake, pond, stream) through private land with the intent to access public land that is bordered by the river, lake, pond, or stream that the hunter is floating on is permissible.

Shooting big game animals that are in water is prohibited"



I'd probably go along with that. If you step foot out of the boat on private land, you are trespassing. I'd get a little nervous about guys shooting rifles out of a boat though, most can't shoot of a bench..

teedub31 12-05-2009 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by vabyrd (Post 3520424)
I'd probably go along with that. If you step foot out of the boat on private land, you are trespassing. I'd get a little nervous about guys shooting rifles out of a boat though, most can't shoot of a bench..


Could someone provide me with the rules governing waterways and private property. And with rules I mean cited laws not what you thinks or have been told. I have been told that property owners own the river (pretty sure it is false). I have been told that they own the ground under the river. (I don't know one way or the other). I have also been told that the high water mark of a navigable river is a public easement even if there is no water at that level currently.

Lots and lots of answers, but I have never been able to have a person cite the law supporting their veiw of river access through private property.

teedub31 12-05-2009 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by driftrider (Post 3519913)
How about just making it illegal to shoot a rifle over water? That's the law in Iowa.

Mike

What about shotguns and pistols??


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