Adjusting Iron Sights
12-02-2009, 11:53 AM
#21
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida Panhandle
Posts: 119
Come on people, it's not rocket science. Like the pdf owner's manual said "Moving rear sight to the right will move the group to the right, etc."
I think the confusion was, he called the rear sight "front".
I think the confusion was, he called the rear sight "front".
12-02-2009, 12:06 PM
#22
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: ohio
Posts: 96
it's not rocket science. The rear site is a blade, it is probably on a ramp like my 870. There is no need to move the front site with these type of sites. If you are shooting left of the bull, you move the rear leaf to the right, this causes you to move the muzzle more to the right to align the front and rear when you take a shot. If you are shooting low move the rear leaf up, this causes you to move your muzzle up to align your sites when you take a shot.
exactly !!!!
12-02-2009, 12:14 PM
#23
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On an Island in Vermont
Posts: 22,571
I think a little confusion comes from the 2 sight issue. Some older guns had fixed rear and dovetail front for adjustments. Some rear sights on a ramp don't adjust sideways (my term east west). The up down could be adjusted using the rear on a ramp and the sideways adjustment could be made with the front and or rear if so equipped.
12-02-2009, 03:11 PM
#24
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 430
There is no debate and it's not a matter of opinion. It may not be rocket science, but it is science: move the rear sight in the direction you want the shot to go. Generally, the front sight should be left alone.
What I do want to add is this: when sighting in, don't start from way back, start relatively close and get it on paper. I've burned up a lot of ammo starting way back and not even hitting the paper, therefore just guessing what direction to go. Just Monday I was sighting in a shotgun (slugs) for a friend. First shot, at 40 yards, was a dead miss. I immediately moved to within 15 yards so I could get on paper. Then, adjust and move back ten yards at a time. This sounds like common sense, but so does adjusting the sights, if you know what I mean.
What I do want to add is this: when sighting in, don't start from way back, start relatively close and get it on paper. I've burned up a lot of ammo starting way back and not even hitting the paper, therefore just guessing what direction to go. Just Monday I was sighting in a shotgun (slugs) for a friend. First shot, at 40 yards, was a dead miss. I immediately moved to within 15 yards so I could get on paper. Then, adjust and move back ten yards at a time. This sounds like common sense, but so does adjusting the sights, if you know what I mean.
12-02-2009, 03:34 PM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,671
...So here it goes.....My gun has a fixed bead on the end of the barrel.....My gun has a slider/left/right adjustment on the front of the barrel closest too your eye.
1...So for instance if im 3" too the left (off target) do I move my sight too the right?
2. So for instance im 3" Low (of target) Do I move my sight (Slider) up?
Thanks IA
1...So for instance if im 3" too the left (off target) do I move my sight too the right?
2. So for instance im 3" Low (of target) Do I move my sight (Slider) up?
Thanks IA
The rear sight is always moved in the direction you want the POI (point of impact) to move.
So if you're hitting 3" to left, you want to move the POI and the rear sight to the right. If you're hitting 3" low you must move the POI and the rear sight up.
There are some sights that have the front sight on a dovetail for side to side (ie:windage) adjustment. In ths case you move the sight in the direction you are off. If it is left, you move the front sight left.
12-02-2009, 03:37 PM
#26
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Iowa
Posts: 380
like I said My Gun is dead on....My buddy tried telling me the opposite so in question made me double think.....Butt thanks for replys I never new the "FRONT" sight moved butt we'll leave that alone....IA
12-02-2009, 03:40 PM
#27
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: central and east texas
Posts: 4,894
12-03-2009, 09:26 AM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,473
LOL, sorry for any confusion I caused.
When I said front sight chases POI and rear sight moves away, I meant the last POI. If I'm hitting to the right, I move my front sight to the right, i.e. I CHASE the POI. If I'm adjusting the rear sight, I move it opposite the last POI. It's the same thing as saying you move the front sight the opposite way you want the next bullet to go, and the rear sight the same direction you want the next bullet to go, just a different way of saying it.
It's true that with most guns, you don't move the front sight when sighting in. Not so with the M14, the rifle I shoot most. For windage, the rear sight is ALWAYS to be left at zero when sighting it, so it can be adjusted for...you guessed it...ACTUAL windage when the need arises. You adjust the front sight when you are zeroing the gun.
When I said front sight chases POI and rear sight moves away, I meant the last POI. If I'm hitting to the right, I move my front sight to the right, i.e. I CHASE the POI. If I'm adjusting the rear sight, I move it opposite the last POI. It's the same thing as saying you move the front sight the opposite way you want the next bullet to go, and the rear sight the same direction you want the next bullet to go, just a different way of saying it.
It's true that with most guns, you don't move the front sight when sighting in. Not so with the M14, the rifle I shoot most. For windage, the rear sight is ALWAYS to be left at zero when sighting it, so it can be adjusted for...you guessed it...ACTUAL windage when the need arises. You adjust the front sight when you are zeroing the gun.
12-03-2009, 09:48 AM
#29
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: central and east texas
Posts: 4,894
LOL, sorry for any confusion I caused.
When I said front sight chases POI and rear sight moves away, I meant the last POI. If I'm hitting to the right, I move my front sight to the right, i.e. I CHASE the POI. If I'm adjusting the rear sight, I move it opposite the last POI. It's the same thing as saying you move the front sight the opposite way you want the next bullet to go, and the rear sight the same direction you want the next bullet to go, just a different way of saying it.
It's true that with most guns, you don't move the front sight when sighting in. Not so with the M14, the rifle I shoot most. For windage, the rear sight is ALWAYS to be left at zero when sighting it, so it can be adjusted for...you guessed it...ACTUAL windage when the need arises. You adjust the front sight when you are zeroing the gun.
When I said front sight chases POI and rear sight moves away, I meant the last POI. If I'm hitting to the right, I move my front sight to the right, i.e. I CHASE the POI. If I'm adjusting the rear sight, I move it opposite the last POI. It's the same thing as saying you move the front sight the opposite way you want the next bullet to go, and the rear sight the same direction you want the next bullet to go, just a different way of saying it.
It's true that with most guns, you don't move the front sight when sighting in. Not so with the M14, the rifle I shoot most. For windage, the rear sight is ALWAYS to be left at zero when sighting it, so it can be adjusted for...you guessed it...ACTUAL windage when the need arises. You adjust the front sight when you are zeroing the gun.
