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Originally Posted by Chuck7 (Post 3723211)

I thought slugs go through any size choke ??

Great post father forkhorn as a father of 5 I can't thank you enough! Too many out there need to go back to learning ethics and all around manners. My father has a ranch and every opening day of Quail season through deer season we have people driving off roads and throwing trash everywhere! Really close to just locking all the gates an not letting anyone on the ranch. Teach your kids the right way to hunt for future generations PLEASE! Good post sorry for ranting!

I'm sure this is a new one...I'm up in my stand today. ready to hunt with my 870 and slugs..only to realize my turkey choke is still in the end of the barrel..
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Time to go home.:violin:

no sir..I ran into a person who had a friend shoot a slug through a turkey choke..The slug embedded itself into the choke stripping out the choke threads..

Too much T.V. is right! I love how we now have to categorize fair chase to high fences. Feed supplements and not. Stop taking the fun out of hunting. Just go out and have fun and do what you love to do if your in it for trophies then I pity you! Every hunter makes his own choice as is his God given right. But to give someone else grief about taking a lower scoring animal is weakness on their part!

Just go hunting and love it! Take a kid hunting it will last you and them a lifetime!

That is one of the saddest stories I have heard. Karma is a booger though and your brother will have to deal with it eventually. Sounds like you have reached trophy status in your journey as a hunter. That is great! If you were to put someone else down for shooting a small buck then thats what I don't believe in. ESPECIALLY with newcomers and kids! I don't think you have this problem but I bet your brother may.

I have never found a good recipe for buck horns. With that said, I have come to a compromise with my trophy hunting friends.

1) I promise to leave unharmed any deer larger than a 4 point, two-year-old buck.

2) I promise to let the largest bucks grow larger for my buddies picture portfolio.

3) I promise to take as many does legally as possible for the sake of letting the big boys go.

4) I promise to only hunt food plots away from buck bedding areas

5) I promise to stay out of swamps, thickets, and heavy cover where monsters live

6) I promise not to step on a hove print larger than 4 inches in diameter

7) I promise not to carry a grunt call

8) I promise to not buy estrus

9) I promise not to bring rattlers

10) I promise not to pee in a bucks scrape

Whats in it for me? Tagging out every year and filling the freezer with the most precious back straps, ribs, loins, hams known to man.

I just love to smell summer sausage smoking on my front porch, alerting me to the future taste of a deer less than 2-years old.

I guess you could say that the memories of harvesting and processing the deer with family, along with the joy of eating them is my trophy. :)

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Originally Posted by Doug100g (Post 3734971)

I have never found a good recipe for buck horns.

Amen! You can't even pick your teeth with them antlers. I don't hunt for sport or trophies, I'm a meat hunter, and the only time I'll shoot a buck is if he's not with a doe. All bucks are good for is trail meat and jerky, even the tenderloins are tough and gamey compared to a doe's. I shot a buck this year because it was by itself, I traded it to a guy I hunt with for his doe, because he cans all of his meat. I have buddies that trophy hunt, they'll make fun of the "dog" I shoot, but they all want to come to my house for dinner and eat all my doe while they're antlers are hanging on their walls collecting dust. They're all lucky if they get one big buck per year. I got two deer cut up and soaking right now, one still hanging, and six more days of hunting. I'm eating good, much better than they are.

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Originally Posted by hockeydad (Post 3730393)

I don't care for the all work associated with dealing with deer carcasses anymore, therefor I only shoot wall hangers. I only shoot a buck every 2 years or so and that is plenty. I currently haven't shot one in 2 years.

My brother took his son hunting this year for the first time. There was a stand during the rut where a huge 8 pointer was coming every single day at 3 in the afternoon. Instead of putting his son on the stand, my brother put one of his drinking buddies. His buddy shot the deer. I was kind of pissed that he didn't let one of the family shoot it. We paid an awful lot of money for that land and we are constantly putting money in to it.

To top things off, this Friday his 12 year old son shot his first deer, a doe. He gutted it himself which was kind of impressive. Today my brother took his son out and 4 deer approached them, 2 doe, a spike buck and an extremely large 8 pointer. Unbelievably, my brother shot the large buck at 20 yards before his son could shoot. His son had to settle for the spike buck. That has to be the single most selfish act I ever heard of. His son was sobbing afterwards.

If you ever get a chance, buy land by yourself, don't go in with other people.

Wow your brother is a straight jack ass. That event could make his son never wanna go hunting again in his life.

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Originally Posted by hockeydad (Post 3730393)

This is why I generally don't like trophy hunters, no respect for the purpose of hunting, no consideration for the people they're hunting with.. I have one trophy hunter I hunt with that I tolerate because he works with me. If he can get the trophy in the group then he'll try to push the rest of them to us so we can get a mid sized doe or two out of it. We ran two trophy hunters off our land for two years in a row they killed two bucks in the same season. That's against the law in Ohio. I don't get it, it's all about them antlers, bragging rights, compensation, whatever. The only reason I'm getting up two hours before dawn to go out into sub freezing weather and get frostbite on my toes is so I can eat good for the year. That buck is the last thing I want to take home to my girl, she don't want them antlers on her wall, and she don't want no buck meat in her freezer.

I came on this late, but read through most of it. The only thing I got out of it was that most of the guys on this forum know less about deer than the biologists working for the Game Commission and DNR.
What do you "Trophy Experts" think happens to a buck when it starts going downhill? There are deer out there that will never be in your trophy class due to genetics. What about those deer? I took mountain deer to the DNR check station in West Virgina and had spikes and 3 pointers weigh in at 120-145 pounds. I was told these deer were 31/2-41/2 years old. I don't see trophy potential in those deer but have seen some real whoppers pulled out of the same area.
I believe that all this "Trophy Deer Management" will eventually be bad for the deer. Deer have a short life span and just like dogs, the breed can be changed quickly. I think that the wildness in deer is slowly being removed and there is no telling what else is being affected. I think it is best to take nature as it is and stop messing around with it.