This is the stuff that gives hunters a bad image
 

This guy is a moron. I think he should accually due time for having his kid in the car.


http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/839828.html

They need to update the title to the article, he is not a hunter he is a poacher.

Thats nothing unusual. It happens alot more than you would think. The warden catches quit a few around here every year for the same thing. It must have been a slow news day for it to make the paper.

Good job by the actual hunter in the treestand who called the law. That's really all we can do. Make sure we report it when something like that happens.

Thats horrible some people are just stupid

Horrible....sounds like he may do some time anyways.

I don't agree at all with this guy breaking the law, or doing it in front of his kid. Having said that, I don't really see any reason to do anything other than fine him and hopefully teach him not to do it again, so that he will teach his kid. Good job to the hunter who turned in the poacher. But how many agencies had to get involved to bring this guy to justice? Did I read that 3 different agencies were on the scene to apprehend a guy who committed a minor infraction? Wow! It must have been a slow crime day too. How many man hours is it really worth to taxpayers to bring in a guy who committed a game law infraction? Probably to feed his kid, and because he couldn't wait for rifle season. Real bad idea sure, crime of the century no. He should have stolen food from a grocer if he were that desperate and the cops, being away on yet another deer poaching call, never would have caught him. Maybe it's more serious in that state, or whitetails are endangered there?
I know that they have to catch someone now and then to set an example and keep guys who are trying to follow the rules from being tempted, but this just seems excessive and a true waste of time.
But since they wasted all that time and money to catch up to these guys, I hope they fine them both enough to pay for the State Troopers, Dept. of Consevation Officers, and County Mounties for being there, not to mention the hours of paperwork each agency will have to do, so the county prosecuter can throw the case out or recommend the minimum fine because they have better things to do. I bet jay walkers in that area have to watch out for helicopters with night vision and heat seeking missiles!

Get a rope !

I get so sick of people thinking they can do whatever they want while the rest of us wait for years to shoot a nice buck. They think they can just shoot one from their car and call it good. grrrrr........ hate people like that. Serious god complex issues

that sounds about right

im from them neck of the woods..

that's like I witnessed a guy litering today...

we were both eating our fast food in the parking lot, I see him open is door, set a bag of trash next to his car, and drive off,

I wanted to honk, take pics/vid with my cell phone, I think I was too busy thinking to do something, I was pissed, jerk!

Is it too much to ask to keep your bag from your fastfood with you until you go home or back to work and throw it out in a garbage can? Should've rammed his car with mine, too bad I need this clunker to keep running.

maybe next time I'll follow him and get his plate and call the cops to the scene, and press charges, this kind of stuff is just plain ridiculous!

People are generally lazy and will take shortcuts. Thats why laws exist, and must be enforced within reason. The guy who turned them in did the right thing. It must have been very frustrating for the bowhunter to have his hunt interupted with this. I know of a local conflict between relatives that is similar.
A nefew and uncle purchased land together so that they could each build a house and share the land for hunting. Last year, in the first deer season on their new land the nefew shot a 14 point buck, I've seen the pics and it's huge, from his truck. The uncle is pissed and fenced off his part of the property upon hearing this. No law enforcement involved here, but the kid lost his hunting land where his home is still under construction because he is a lazy slob, and a poacher! I think he is being punished enough. The point is, it's not easy following the rules and living right, but it's preffered by most people, and it is very frustrating when a few people take short cuts and get away with it. Knowing that I do my best to stay within the laws is more satisfying to me than cheating and killing a bigger buck than someone else. Any poacher can do that.
On the other hand laws can be confusing and catch up good people who thought they were in the clear, and that is a big problem too. I've seen folks misunderstand laws and get in trouble when a warning would solve the problem. Some officers really go overboard with piling on the charges and fines when they don't have to.
I talked to a guy just a week ago from out of state who was carrying around a crossbow during archery season. A crossbow can only be used during rifle season here. I felt it the neighborly thing to do, to warn him of his mistake. Reading through a pamphlet you've never seen before from page to page you can read on one page all the things allowed and turn the page and see under methods allowed, crossbows, and not notice that the heading has changed from archery hunting ,to rifle hunting. Anyway it happens. The guy was happy to know his mistake before getting into serious trouble, and thanked me for the help. I think we should all help each other stay out of trouble if we can. Now, if the guy had become defensive or told me to mind my own business, and I thought he was intentionally breaking the law like the guys putting an arrow into a gunshot wound obviously were, I would have tried to ID him by asking to see an ID or by finding his truck and plate # and turned him in. I would then hope that it were handled appropriately by the game warden.

I agree with turkey guide.

Before we hang these men we should get the whole story. Times are very tough for some folks these days. People out of work, going broke, losing their homes, cars & trucks. Circumstances are different for everyone.

Spudrow from Mo

Before we hang these men we should get the whole story. Times are very tough for some folks these days. People out of work, going broke, losing their homes, cars & trucks. Circumstances are different for everyone.

But shooting, then coming back later shows planning. I've been tempted this year to shoot deer after legal shooting hours a couple times while heading home. If I had done that, tossed them in the pickup, and headed home it would be dishonest and illegal, but the fact that I see 10 deer after dark for every one within shooting hours is just frustrating. But shooting a deer during daylight bow season, usually well before centerfire season even opens up, and then staging a legal kill is just unacceptable.

Reading this article at work just made me laugh. The fact that there are still guys out there that will take extreme measures to get what they want when they want it. Can you imagine how that conversation went in that truck....

"Alright honey, hold daddy's shell for him while I rest my gun on the edge of my door. Shhh. be quiet! Don't scare em. you got your ears plugged." asked the father.

"Daddy don't! That's Bambi's daddy!" cries out the child.

"Shut your mouth if you knew what was good for ya!" yelled the poacher.

"This is what we call Sardinia Fast Food!"



Idiot.......

Gromky, this could be true. I just think we should know as much of the circumstances as possible before we condem these men. I suppose since they ran after being yelled at would also contribute to their guilt. I'd still like to know the whole story.

Spudrow from Mo

Some people are just so stupid, WHY??

-BH818

As a NY sportsmen, what will probably happen to this guy is he will face an enormous fine, his fire arms will be posessed by the state and destroyed, and he will face a hunting ban for X amount of time.

I was talking to a guy at a hunter's safety course a while ago who had had a 5 year ban because a home owner complained that he was shooting towards their house at geese, and after an extensive investigation they found 1 pellet in the home's gutter, which was enough for him to face a fine and ban.

New York is very, VERY serious about stuff like this.

Yes some people are very stupid indeed.

Spudrow from MO

exactly..this man is no hunter in my eyes

you know what id be ticked if i was the bowhunter that buck was close. thats wrong heavy fine.

there is a difference between a hunter and poacher