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Originally Posted by wis_bow_huntr
(Post 3486699)
You cant use a 22 rim fire but you can use a 22Mag Centerfire. There is a little difference. The 22Mag is not a very popular load but it is sold in most sporting good stores.
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Originally Posted by zrexpilot
(Post 3486705)
so then how does a bow and arrow kill with only 50lb KE ?
How come I can kill a cow with a .22LR with only 120 lb KE How come when someone places a bad shot on an animal with a 300 mag and 2500 lbs KE the deer is never found. I mean come on, you just blasted him with 2500 ft lbs kinetic energy why didnt he die. Why are there soldiers walking around with bullet wounds, how come that kinetic energy didnt kill them. An arrow cuts and slices which causes massive hemmoraging(sp) and blood loss,as well as deflating the lungs. Like I said,you want a hole through the heart/lungs but the massive shock waves kill and kill quickly.With a rifle, both do the job.This is why deer shot with high caliber guns drop in their tracks and deer shot with a .223 run for 100 yards leaving no blood. How do your shots to the neck kill ,even you bosted about the SHOCK(that shock is KE) as you put it. Hell,I opened up a deer I shot with a .270 once and there was NO LUNGS OR HEART,they were GONE.This was a 130 gr ppsp wicnchester.That was damage cause from massive shock. |
Federal sells two recommended for deer.....
.223 60gr Nosler Partition-Vital-Shok .223 55gr Barnes Triple Shok X bullet-Vital Shok |
lol always the guys who dont shoot a 223 sayin how a mag makes em drop lol i got a mag and they run sumtimes,and they drop too... and with my 223 they run sometimes, but they drop just as much lol
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Originally Posted by TFOX
(Post 3487002)
Like I said,you want a hole through the heart/lungs but the massive shock waves kill and kill quickly.With a rifle, both do the job.This is why deer shot with high caliber guns drop in their tracks and deer shot with a .223 run for 100 yards leaving no blood. |
If you are confident with your shooting, no trouble's. However the .223 is a little light for most deer hunters.
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Originally Posted by TFOX
(Post 3487002)
An arrow cuts and slices which causes massive hemmoraging(sp) and blood loss,as well as deflating the lungs.
Like I said,you want a hole through the heart/lungs but the massive shock waves kill and kill quickly.With a rifle, both do the job.This is why deer shot with high caliber guns drop in their tracks and deer shot with a .223 run for 100 yards leaving no blood. How do your shots to the neck kill ,even you bosted about the SHOCK(that shock is KE) as you put it. Hell,I opened up a deer I shot with a .270 once and there was NO LUNGS OR HEART,they were GONE.This was a 130 gr ppsp wicnchester.That was damage cause from massive shock. So why doesnt the KE or shock wave as you put it kill a deer when shot in the ass ? |
Originally Posted by zrexpilot
(Post 3487263)
So why doesnt the KE or shock wave as you put it kill a deer when shot in the ass ?
Please tell me your not serious.:confused0024: |
Originally Posted by ipscshooter
(Post 3487120)
Interesting. I've had as many deer drop in their tracks with my .243 as with my .30-06, and have had as many run 50 yards after the shot with my .30-06 as with my .243.
Good for you;) So according to your logic,a 22 outpenetrates a .223 so now it is better suited for deer. What about the damage to the shoulders,ever noticed how much more bruised they get from HIGH caliber than lower calibers.That same damage gets done to the vitals as well but I am glad you set me straight and we don't want or need ke in a rifle load.Glad to know they kill just like a bow. |
Originally Posted by TFOX
(Post 3487309)
Please tell me your not serious.:confused0024:
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