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Bible_Man 07-24-2009 12:12 PM

Ammo opinion
 
Just got a .270 WIN...would you all recommend a 130 or 150 grain bullet? I will be hunting whitetail only.

Switchback_XT 07-24-2009 12:18 PM

I had a .270 win I used to chase deer with. Deffinatly go with the 150 grain, the 130's just didn't have the umpfff to put down a full grown deer.

jeepkid 07-24-2009 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Switchback_XT (Post 3391980)
I had a .270 win I used to chase deer with. Deffinatly go with the 150 grain, the 130's just didn't have the umpfff to put down a full grown deer.

:lmao:

HAHA! Yes, a 130gr is more then enough for a "full grown deer"!! Or maybe the ones on my wall are actually still alive...:poke:

Bible_Man 07-24-2009 12:26 PM

jeepkid, would you recommend the 130 over the 150, and if so why?

nchawkeye 07-24-2009 01:06 PM

My brother and his son have killed at least a hundred with the Federal Premium 130gr Sierra GameKing SPBT...

zrexpilot 07-24-2009 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Bible_Man (Post 3391987)
jeepkid, would you recommend the 130 over the 150, and if so why?


My theory is the lighter faster bullet will expand more causing more damage, the 150 will probably hold together better and penetrate more, however on deer you would get a pass through using both but I think the 130 would do more damge. I would probably go with 150's on hog or elk.

bugsNbows 07-24-2009 01:23 PM

bullet selection
 
It's totally absurd to say a 130 gr. isn't enough for whitetails. It certainly is! Heck, my 25-06 with 100's is a certified Bambi killer. You just need to hit them in the right place. Geez Loiuse. Personally, I shoot what my gun likes...Barnes TSX or TTSX. :bash:

Bible_Man 07-24-2009 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by zrexpilot (Post 3392026)
My theory is the lighter faster bullet will expand more causing more damage, the 150 will probably hold together better and penetrate more, however on deer you would get a pass through using both but I think the 130 would do more damge. I would probably go with 150's on hog or elk.


Thanks...I have a .300 WBY I would use for anything tougher than a whitetail.

SWThomas 07-24-2009 01:42 PM

Either one should be fine. Just go with whatever one is cheaper.

superstrutter 07-24-2009 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Switchback_XT (Post 3391980)
I had a .270 win I used to chase deer with. Deffinatly go with the 150 grain, the 130's just didn't have the umpfff to put down a full grown deer.


That's a good one. Thanks for the humor. I use nothing but 130 grain. Believe me, 130 grain packs plenty of umpfff to drop any size Whitetail in its tracks.

salukipv1 07-24-2009 02:13 PM

my 270 loves the cheapo 130gr federals blue box, though packaging seems to change.

130gr certainly has enough to take down a deer. just figure out what shoots best out of your rifle.

jrbsr 07-24-2009 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bible_Man (Post 3391974)
Just got a .270 WIN...would you all recommend a 130 or 150 grain bullet? I will be hunting whitetail only.


Shoot both to see which one shoots better.
Then go with the one that shoots better.
They both will kill a deer.

JMHO

oujeff25 07-24-2009 03:03 PM

I harvested a 10 pt. last November with a 130 grain Remington. It did the job for me.

rozman62 07-24-2009 04:55 PM

.270 win = 130 gr bullet for deer. I have never considered any other bullet. If I am hunting larger game I break out the 30-06/165 or 180gr.

JUSTIN342987 07-24-2009 08:29 PM

I'm with zrex on this one deer, especially down here, aren't extremely thick skinned so i think that lighter bullet would be more like an expandable broadhead and cause more damage.....either will work fine though really depends on which one shoots the best with your gun

thndrchiken 07-24-2009 09:55 PM

130 gr is plenty for deer, as far as which load by several and see which your gun likes best.

Doe Dumper 07-24-2009 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by Switchback_XT (Post 3391980)
I had a .270 win I used to chase deer with. Deffinatly go with the 150 grain, the 130's just didn't have the umpfff to put down a full grown deer.




Heeeeeres your sign....

The 270 was built around the 130 gr. Id say the 50+ deer laid flat by my puny 130 gr cup and core (blue box Federal) bullets musta been a fluke. Sometimes I wonder if some folks have even used the stuff they talk about.

nchawkeye 07-25-2009 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by Doe Dumper (Post 3392318)
Heeeeeres your sign....

The 270 was built around the 130 gr. Id say the 50+ deer laid flat by my puny 130 gr cup and core (blue box Federal) bullets musta been a fluke. Sometimes I wonder if some folks have even used the stuff they talk about.

Nope they don't...We see it often, just let the .243 come up, or
the 22-250 for deer, or buckshot...All willl kill effectively...IF the man behind the gun knows what he is doing... :)

timbercruiser 07-25-2009 05:18 AM

The only cartridge I have used for a LONG time is the .270 Hornady 140 grain BTSP. Try a box or two of different cartridges and see which one your rifle shoots best. IMHO avoid the ballistic tip cartridges and stick with a bonded bullet.

skybuster20ga 07-25-2009 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by bugsNbows (Post 3392038)
It's totally absurd to say a 130 gr. isn't enough for whitetails. It certainly is! Heck, my 25-06 with 100's is a certified Bambi killer. You just need to hit them in the right place. Geez Loiuse. Personally, I shoot what my gun likes...Barnes TSX or TTSX. :bash:

what if he's going after bambis dad?? hahaha

stubblejumper 07-25-2009 06:38 AM


I had a .270 win I used to chase deer with. Deffinatly go with the 150 grain, the 130's just didn't have the umpfff to put down a full grown deer.
I sincerely hope that you were being sarcastic,as I have never read anything as foolish on any hunting forum before.

Switchback_XT 07-25-2009 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by stubblejumper (Post 3392461)
I sincerely hope that you were being sarcastic,as I have never read anything as foolish on any hunting forum before.


I was not being sarcastic at all. While I was gutting the deer I took a close look at the lungs and hart. I found that the 130 grain cheap bullets out of a 22 inch barrel did all of their expantion in the entrance wound side of the 1st lung they encounter. They then poked a small hole through the rest of the deer.
On any deer I shot with the .270 they ran FAR off, some times to a completly different spread of woods.
Many that I shot but missed the heart were wounded but still out there runin around today.
That is why I say the 150 grain would be his best bet given the choices. If I were to recommend a bullet I would point him twards the Barnes solid slugs. They are the only bullets ever to have 100% weight retention after expansion.
Actually LOOK at the damage your bullets did, and pay close attention to WHERE it did its damage. Just because it poked a hole does not mean its gud enough. those little holes can be covered up by the skin moving. Then you have no blood trail at all and likely no deer at all.
Personally I look for a round designed around 200 grain bullets before I will accept it as a deer round. Then they don't take to many steps after the shot.

stubblejumper 07-25-2009 11:50 AM


Personally I look for a round designed around 200 grain bullets before I will accept it as a deer round. Then they don't take to many steps after the shot.
If you feel that you need 200gr to kill a deer properly,what do you feel is appropriate for elk and moose?600gr?800gr?

:s13:

I have killed far too many of our large bodied Canadian deer with 100gr to 140gr bullets to give your statements any credibility.

13pointjomc 07-25-2009 05:39 PM

I killed a 13 point back in November with a.243 with 100 grain bullets,a .270 with 130s is PLENTY for any size deer.

srwshooter 07-26-2009 04:06 AM

i find the 140grn bullets kill quicker then any other bullet weight in the 270win . i 've killed way over 150 deer with them in the last 20-25 yrs.

hornady 140gn

Teach Deer 07-26-2009 06:33 AM

Shoot whatever is most accurate in your particular rifle. My Savage .270 prefers 130 grain Federal loads.

Personally, I like 130 grain loads in .270 (150 grain in 7mm and 180 grain in .30-cal).

If you ever go after "fully grown" bucks, you can always use a Nosler Partition...one of the most devestating bullets I have ever used.

deerman69 07-26-2009 08:39 AM

I kill deer with a 243 with 110gr bulletts and never had a problem with 1 shot kills. It was one of my late fathers favorite rifles. Out of respect for him I always try to shoot at least 1 deer with it every year.My main rifle is a 7mag weatherby I use 175gr in that one and my wife shoots dads old 257 roberts with 115gr and my girl uses a 270 with 130gr and has never had any problems. I would try both and see which one seems to shoot the best in your set up. Good luk deerman :biggrin:

Bible_Man 07-26-2009 12:59 PM

You said your girl shoots a .270 with 130 grain bullets...how does she handle the recoil? My wife may use the .270 some. She is fairly petite and I have wondered how she would handle it.

fishinty 07-26-2009 01:32 PM

Both of them will do the job.

Bible_Man 07-26-2009 01:50 PM

I went ahead and bought several boxes of the 130 grain. Talk to a guy that has the same CVA Optima Elite interchangeable barrel system with a .270 that said what he had got to perform the best out of his was REM CORE-LOKT 130 grain. A little cheaper too. Thanks for all the input and suggestions. I never questioned the ability of a 130 grain bullet dropping a deer...I was just questioning the performance. Thanks for your answers as I will always be trying to learn.

Do still wander what you all think about my wife shooting the .270. She is 5'7" and weighs 120-125. I suppose one way of finding out is to just put her behind it and let her pull the trigger!

timbercruiser 07-26-2009 03:53 PM

Bible Man if you have a problem with the recoil just get a Limb Saver recoil pad and put on the rifle. It will surprise you how much that pad will tame a hard kicking rifle.

WVCritter 07-26-2009 07:16 PM

The first deer I shot with my .270, I was shooting the Remington 150gr shells and the deer acted as if it wasn't even hit. A second round put it down and a third round at close range put it away. Upon skinning the deer and looking at the damage, it was obvious that the bullet didn't expand much if any at all. The deer had what looked like a small puncture wound where thre bullet entered and a slightly larger wound on the exit. I explained to a fellow that was shooting his .270 what had happend and he imediately told me to go to a 130 grain. I did and the following season and most seasons afterwards it's been 1 shot ,1 kill with no tracking involved. I'm sold on the 130 grain loads and it don't matter much whether it's a Remingtom, Federal or Winchester shell just as long as it's a 130 grain and you put it through the boiler room.

Bible_Man 07-26-2009 08:27 PM

The gun came with a really nice recoil pad. I have used a limbsaver recoil pad on my WBY .300, but have since taken it off because it just catches on my clothing too much. But, the recoil pad that came on this CVA is top quality and seems to be at least as high a quality recoil pad as the limbsaver. Thanks for the input, again.

Doe Dumper 07-26-2009 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Switchback_XT (Post 3392590)
I was not being sarcastic at all. While I was gutting the deer I took a close look at the lungs and hart. I found that the 130 grain cheap bullets out of a 22 inch barrel did all of their expantion in the entrance wound side of the 1st lung they encounter. They then poked a small hole through the rest of the deer.
On any deer I shot with the .270 they ran FAR off, some times to a completly different spread of woods.
Many that I shot but missed the heart were wounded but still out there runin around today.
That is why I say the 150 grain would be his best bet given the choices. If I were to recommend a bullet I would point him twards the Barnes solid slugs. They are the only bullets ever to have 100% weight retention after expansion.
Actually LOOK at the damage your bullets did, and pay close attention to WHERE it did its damage. Just because it poked a hole does not mean its gud enough. those little holes can be covered up by the skin moving. Then you have no blood trail at all and likely no deer at all.
Personally I look for a round designed around 200 grain bullets before I will accept it as a deer round. Then they don't take to many steps after the shot.


Troll alert!!! :D :action-smiley-099:

RugerM77.270 07-27-2009 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by Switchback_XT (Post 3392590)
I was not being sarcastic at all. While I was gutting the deer I took a close look at the lungs and hart. I found that the 130 grain cheap bullets out of a 22 inch barrel did all of their expantion in the entrance wound side of the 1st lung they encounter. They then poked a small hole through the rest of the deer.
On any deer I shot with the .270 they ran FAR off, some times to a completly different spread of woods.
Many that I shot but missed the heart were wounded but still out there runin around today.
That is why I say the 150 grain would be his best bet given the choices. If I were to recommend a bullet I would point him twards the Barnes solid slugs. They are the only bullets ever to have 100% weight retention after expansion.
Actually LOOK at the damage your bullets did, and pay close attention to WHERE it did its damage. Just because it poked a hole does not mean its gud enough. those little holes can be covered up by the skin moving. Then you have no blood trail at all and likely no deer at all.
Personally I look for a round designed around 200 grain bullets before I will accept it as a deer round. Then they don't take to many steps after the shot.

Sounds like a personal problem to me. I have used and 270 for a few years now and had great success with 130gr Gamekings and 140gr Hornday btsp. I have examined closely the heart and lungs after the shot and you know what? They weren't there, they were blown to pudding. If you can't kill effectivelly with a 270 and a 130 gr. bullet you need to go back to hunting school and there are millions of dead deer out there to prove it.

RugerM77.270 07-27-2009 04:10 AM

Deer are not hard to kill a good cast pullet at 1500 fps will do fine. I say start with sereral different kinds of the cheap rounds in 130 and see if any will shoot to the level of accruacy you like. When you find the one you like go hunt.

wis_bow_huntr 07-27-2009 04:11 AM

Id go with a 150 or 165. 130 is enough but not recomended.

superstrutter 07-27-2009 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by wis_bow_huntr (Post 3393563)
Id go with a 150 or 165. 130 is enough but not recomended.

Where are you getting this information? I've never heard of 130 grain not being recommended. In my experience the 130 grain has outperformed the 150 grain on drop dead shots. I've killed lots of deer, and I know for a fact the 130 grain will get the job done. I highly recommend the 130 grain over the 150 grain. Don't get me wrong, the 150 grain will do the job also, but for me, the 130 grain works better.

WoolyBill 07-27-2009 08:29 AM

As far as the wife thing.... I just set my wife up with a brand new savage 243 and 100gr winchester powerpoints and she shot it her very first time this past weekend. Just waiting to see if she shoots more deer than me this season. Was going to get her the 270, but then again only 130gr and higher bullets. Depnds on what she is comfortable shooting. The thing that matters most is that she is comfortable shooting with it. Comfort builds consistency which equals confidence and accuracy. Just waiting for here to put here first one down now!

zrexpilot 07-27-2009 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by WoolyBill (Post 3393711)
As far as the wife thing.... I just set my wife up with a brand new savage 243 and 100gr winchester powerpoints and she shot it her very first time this past weekend. Just waiting to see if she shoots more deer than me this season. Was going to get her the 270, but then again only 130gr and higher bullets. Depnds on what she is comfortable shooting. The thing that matters most is that she is comfortable shooting with it. Comfort builds consistency which equals confidence and accuracy. Just waiting for here to put here first one down now!

I have used a .243 for many many years, I dont own one right now but between me my brother and my father and over 6 decades we put tons of deer on the ground with a .243 100 gr.
It is bad medicine on deer.
Mt father went from a .308 to the .243 back in the 60's because of us kids, well we never looked back and never shot anything else for decades. I only remember one deer my bro lost to a .243, cant tell you where he hit it though.
I never lost one in at least 50 deer in 30 years.


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