Am I Old Fashioned!
 

This could be posted under several forums, big game hunting out west or here in GA., from small game, waterfowl, doves, quail, etc. I have several different friends that come to my home each year, some from here in GA. to some from out of state. They come to fish and/or hunt.

Here is what the problem is! Most of the time when I invite a friend, I tell him to bring a buddy if he wants to, I know how it is with the expenses and it's definitely more fun to travel with a buddy. But what I'm hearing is that the friend dosen't offer to pay a dime toward travel expenses, food, etc. I've seen on more occasions where the one that invited thefriend, (freind or relative), would kill a deer, hog, etc, and never offer the other a piece of the meat, or some of the fish or game. And this is after the invitee help drag the animal out of the woods, helped clean the game, etc.

I personally wouldn't ask for any of the meat, I can pretty much get my own, but I was raised that you split the meat/game down the middle as well as the expenses. As for expenses, even if invited, I think you should offer to pay half. Now if you financially can't that's one thing, but if you can, make the offer.

An example, Myself and a friend went to Colorado in 03, we both harvested a mule deer, so spliting the meat wasn't a question, but we split the expenses, fuel, lodging, food, etc. down the middle. We went in his vehicle and I told if we broke down on the road, I would split the cost with any repairs.

Have we forgotten common curtisy?

dog1

RE: Am I Old Fashioned!
 

In a word, in many cases YES...

I try to be tolerant but part of the problem is that there is an entire generation that just never learned the propery way to act and treat others...

I'm 53, dad was a WW-II vet...He had us shooting by the time we were 6-7 years old, following him at 8-9 and hunting behind the house on our own by the time we were 10 or less...We started with squirrels, moved up to some duck hunting on Currituck, rabbit hunting in front of beagles, dove hunting with the local farmers and their sons...

What I see today is many start hunting later in life and jump right into deer hunting, so they haven't had the training that I had...In addition, the divorce rate is 50% or better so they don't have a dad to mentor and start them out properly...

The only way to start is one at a time and let the other hunter know what it's going to cost him before the trip...

RE: Am I Old Fashioned!
 

I can't speak for the traveling part, but I always offer everyone at camp some of the fresh venison;especially if it's taken in front of someone else'shounds. I usually bring more meat from my bow kills and split it among our hunting crew when venison is scarce at the camp dinner. Most of my hunting crew doesn't bow or muzzleloader hunt, so they kind of depend onme and the other younger guys to feed them occassionally when it's general gun season.

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A coworker recently lucked into one of the best deals I've ever heard of for a two bedroom beachfront condo rental in NFlorida, he invited several members of his family to accompany him and his wife, all they had to pay for was half of the gas and food on the trip. Despite the fact that he would be covering all of the condo rental fee they all declined to pay for gas or food, so he missed out on the deal.

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sharing costs is pretty standard in my view.

Now if they come to GA and stay with you, aside from offering you some meat, what expenses are you looking for them to share? personally I'd buy the group some steaks/dinner one night etc..., but if I invite someone to stay at my home I certainly wouldn't be looking for any cash etc, but I do think it's polite /common curtisy to pay for dinner, or something along those lines.

Traveling out of state with someone I think definitely means sharing the cost of gas, now if someone else's car broke down, I wouldn't be paying for repair bills to their vehicle, nor would I expect a friend to pay to fix my vehicle. Now if I was low on cash, or we needed to get ont he road, giving me a loan is another thing.

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salukipv1,

Maybe I wasn't clear. When I invite a friend or he takes upon himself to ask can come and hunt with me, I have never asked for a dime and don't expect anything from this friendship.

What I'm talking about is 2 or 3 friends on a hunt, one invites, the others want to go. Curtosy is what I'm talking about between these friends. Expenses, sharing meat, not with me, among themselves. I was raised, if invited, you offer to help with everything. If the offer is refused, so be it.

dog1

RE: Am I Old Fashioned!
 

not offering to help with expences when you have money,or not offering to share the meat with the one who got you there is just plain rude.be the last time.i was raised when your word and a hand shake meant something.and still does to me

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My friends and I go fly fishing outside of Creede, Colorado every year sometimes twice. We take several hog hunting trips out throughout the year to our different ranches. We always split the gas, food, expenses. The only thing we don't split is ammo or processing. Mostly cause we butcher our own animals, but we still share the meat, we just play by the rule that if you shoot it you pay for it.

So even if you are old fashioned, there ain't nothing wrong with it. A few people in my generation still try and live up to those standards. Which is always hard with this ever changing society.


Tobe

RE: Am I Old Fashioned!
 

Besides one guy that never has a dime to his name, all of my hunting buddies are more than fair when it comes to splitting the cost. I have one buddy that I take goose hunting a couple of times a year and he always buys lunch and then gets me a real nice bottle of some sort of spirits every year.

I hear all of the stories on here about the a-hole hunters who don't respect other hunters and give us a bad name as hunters in general. I'm sure glad those aren't the dudes I hunt with. I can put up with a mistake but I won't hunt with an a-hole.

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You are right, if two people come.
Then they should split the bill.
Unless one isn't able to, and the person that invited him/her knows in advance.
And the game should be devided, and some given to the person that owns the land, and or lease.

JMHO

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I'm an old fashioned sort myself,and I think all of your complaints have merit.Whenever I'm asked to hunt with someone,I try to help out as much as I can.As for sharing the meat that goes without question anytime,anywhere I hunt.Yeah,many people have forgotten or just never learned common hunting courtesy.

RE: Am I Old Fashioned!
 

so you're saying there are people who don't offer to pay their half? the idea seems foreign to me, and not very courteous.

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I dont think that old fashion is the right word because I am only 20 and I have the same thoughts as you.
That maybe because my dad taught me to split everything while hunting.
I usually only hunt with my family but since I had a job when I was 16 I started pitching in on the expenses.
When we go hunting we always split gas food lodging or camp fees. Meat is always split equalingno matter what. If your with us and we get something everyone gets meat doesnt matter if there are 6 people in the hunting party and one animal it gets split 6 ways. We even all split the expense of processing if we dont butcher it ourselves.
When I invite someone hunting or someone wants to come with the family we make it clear all expenses and meat is split.
Last season was my only exception to this rule. My uncle could not afford to hunt but he is my main hunting buddy since my little brother needs to tag along with my dad. He couldnt afford gas every weekend and camp fees and so on. In this case I invited him anyway I covered the gas most of food. Only thing I asked of him was he buy his own tags and help with expenses when he could throughout the season. Turned out he couldnt help very often but I didnt care cuz he did help when he could. I didnt ask him to pay me back a dime but when he got his tax return he gave me a chunk of it to cover his hunting expenses for last year. But I didnt spend it I am holding it without him knowing just in case he is in the same situation this year. By the way I got a buck and split it with him and ironically he got a bull elk and split it with me so he contributed more meat then me in the end anyway.