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1950KID 01-23-2002 06:30 PM

.410 for deer in Indiana
 
Indiana just passed a law making it legal to use a .410 to hunt deer. What do you think about it? I think it's on the small side.
20 guage is small enough.

THE DEER SLAYER 01-23-2002 06:40 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
20 gauge or bigger.

Crow Slayer 01-23-2002 07:25 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
i agree, 20 gauge or bigger

Tree climber 01-23-2002 07:34 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
410 with a slug is able to take a deer at 40 or 50 yrds.if you are lucky.but yes it is on the small side.I would never use one myslef.as said 20ga. or bigger would be better.


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Natty Bumpo 01-23-2002 08:19 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
In my state slugs for deer have to be at least 20 gauge.

Dan B 01-23-2002 08:23 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
1950KID~~I saw this. I was very surprised because of the small size of the .410. I know that it can kill a deer, but I think for every kill with the .410 there will be a wounded deer. I will be sticking with my 12ga.

Dan Blair

GoTres 01-23-2002 08:40 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
This one ought to get hot. .410 is too small, and passing that law sounds like an irresponsible thing to do. Are they pandering to the anti-gun crowd by legalizing a smaller and slower projectile? If so, have they taken into account the number of deer that will be injured and not retrieved? Not a good idea, IMO.

Canadahunter 01-23-2002 09:19 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
Ooof...that doesn't sound like a wise decision.

halcon 01-23-2002 10:09 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
Gotres All Gauges of shotguns shoot close to the same speed , the only big difference is the amount of shot . I do think a 410 would be a bit small for deer but that is just my opinion .

soarkrebel 01-23-2002 10:13 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
.410 's are legal in ark. , my son has slugs for his. it no different than a 41 mag. he has not killed a deer with it but could. he uses a 243 because he is a good shot and i can always use the venison.

Tazman 01-24-2002 05:39 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
1950kid I wouldn't use a .410 for deer simply because I don't own one. A friend of my fathers killed several 100 deer with a 410 though, he swore it was as close to a rifle as you could get. If you look at the wieght of a 410 slug and the diameter it is more than big enough to kill a deer easily at 40 yards or less.

The Tazman

buckhunter3 01-24-2002 06:07 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
I will agree most any gun will harvest a deer if the hunter knows its limit.
I would be afraid some hunters would go beyond that limit with a 410.

Tazman 01-24-2002 06:16 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
buckhunter I agree with you totally, I have seen a number of post here about folks taking 60 yard shots with buck shot!

The Tazman

GoTres 01-24-2002 06:42 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
I guess I'm just going on the fact that my .410 was a "starter gun." I understand that the velocity is about the same and I guess that at close range, there might be enough to get it done. As long as it doesn't result in too many lost deer, I guess I wouldn't have a problem with it. It still sounds too small to me, but there are many people that don't approve of my .243.

Allen Denton 01-24-2002 07:06 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
It is on the small size but if you know your limits and take good shots you shouild be ablwe to harvest the animal. The hunters who take the questionable shots are the ones that are going to wound deer and that happens to anyone who makes those kinds of shots.

Trum 01-24-2002 08:20 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
I have recently been wondering about that very question.
.410 (It’s a caliber not a gauge, but that’s not really important) are legal here in Ohio.
My son is interested in hunting with me next year, and I’ve been wondering if a .410 is enough gun? How does it compare to a .357 ? I know several people that have taken deer with that. Right now I’m leaning toward letting come along a couple of times next year. But, I will require him to be able to safely and accurately handle a 20 gauge slug gun before allowing him to hunt. I would be very interested in hearing others opinions, and experience with this.


nny243 01-24-2002 09:52 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
Are there ballistics information about a .410 with slugs? That ought to decide the matter.

frizzellr 01-24-2002 10:00 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
Seems to me that a 410 slug at 40 yards would serve better on deer than those puny .22 cal centerfires.

BUCKINTHEWOODZ 01-24-2002 10:12 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
i agree ,,, .20 gauge or bigger, but a slug will knock a deer down at close range, but .410 more of a small game shot gun,

buckmine 01-24-2002 10:32 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
I was considering a 410 for my wife last fall. It fits her well. She didn't go last year because we were late in getting a doe tag. In my opinion if a 410 is used like a bow where the shot is close and the deer is walking and not running, you would think a 410 would do the job.
Opinions on this?.........

buckforme 01-24-2002 10:37 AM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
My son started with a 410 at the age of 11. He never killed a deer with it, lots of rabbits though, but it was enough to get him into hunting. This year (age 13) i got him a 20 gauge. He is a big kid 5'9 1501bs so he is strong enough to handle it. It paid off too, he nailed a huge buck this year. I posted this under "Dad couldnt be prouder" a few weeks back. I have seen folks drop a deer with the 410, but i agree that you gotta know the limits of the gun and use it wisely. I think allowing the 410 allows younger folks to get into hunting early. My sons 410 was a single shot, pull the hammer back, old england style. I dont think it was the acutal gun that made him happy it was the chance to be out in the woods with dad, carrying a weapon like dad does. So in that regard i am all for it. Lets the younger folks be a part of the hunting family.

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nny243 01-24-2002 12:04 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
Just did a quick search on 410 ballistics on the web. Although it certainly isn't an elephant gun it packs as much or more energy than many pistols and people hunt deer with pistols all the time. If a state declares it legal then at least some thought has gone into it. (I know, I know, the state isn't always right, but I seriously doubt they want wounded and suffering animals lying around). I wouldn't use a shotgun for deer unless the law demanded it anyway.

Tazman 01-24-2002 12:16 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
nny I did the same thing and came to the same conclusion, a 410 slug has more than enough power to take out a deer as long as it is used under 40 yards. Of course that is just my opinion. I have been told they are far more accurate than a 12 gauge smoothbore slug, though they have far less knockdown power.

The Tazman

RonM 01-24-2002 02:43 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
It ins't legal in Delaware either, but I have heard that it is awesome. I have a box of slugs for my .410 I want to try it for target shooting just to see what its range of accuracy. I got mine for Christmas l952. it has got a lot of rabbits and squirrels but never a deer. I was once told you could put a 30-30 round in one adn shoot it, that is going to have to be proven by someone else.

Buck Magnet 01-24-2002 03:23 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
Yeah, that sounds a little too small, I have been thinking about using a shotgun and slugs in Pennsylvania for next year. If I do, I will be using my 12 gauge Remington 870 Express Magnum with 3" Mag slugs.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

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1950KID 01-24-2002 07:50 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
I think .410 shotgun shells, and .45 bullets,
are the same size.

ChiefHeadhunter 01-25-2002 01:08 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
yeah, 1950kid. But I think that is Colt 45 longs. I don't realy know what the difference is and I'm not up on handguns at all. I once had a little derringer double barrel side by side that shot both of those rounds. It was real cheep and one of the few handguns I've had.

rem7400 01-25-2002 09:11 PM

RE: .410 for deer in Indiana
 
A .410 is adequate to kill a deer at short ranges and it is a great gun to introduce young hunters to the woods with. The felt recoil from a .410 is significantly less than a .20 gauge and I'd rather have a youngster accurately shooting a .410 verses being too scared of a larger gauge shotgun. As soon as my son was able I moved him up to a .20 gauge pump and now that he is 12 yrs old he uses a sweet shooting 12 gauge semi auto, remington model 58.
RonM, years ago when I wasn't as smart as I am now I used to take .32 longs and wrap a little tape around them for a better fit in the breach and fire those thru my .410 single shot. Not to smart but what the heck, I had to see if it would work.


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