Wayne Zaft Being Investigated
 

Wayne Zaft is being investigated by Edmonton Better Business Bureau after receiving the following complaint in follow up to the Manitoba Consumers Bureau actions against Trophy Whitetail reproductions who manufactured the replica. Here is a copy of the original complaint............." Not too long ago, a hunter by the name of Wayne Zaft arrowed a deer that he thought was potentially the new world' s record typical deer by bow. For the past 1 ½ years the deer has been referred to as the pending or potential new world' s record. However, the organization that determines this, namely Pope and Young, have denied Zaft' s claim after the rack of the deer was panel scored on March 8th of this year. Pope and Young' s sister organization, Boone and Crockett, have also denied/rejected Zaft' s claim. Boone and Crockett is responsible for game record keeping of all animal regardless of method of harvesting, whereas Pope and Young only consider animals harvested by archery. After being rejected by both organizations a magazine called Buckmasters proclaimed Zaft' s deer to be their #1, but only in 1 category and there are 20 different categories in this organization but they are not the official World Record Keepers. However, Wayne Zaft is continuing to herald his deer as the new World Record even though both organizations that decide these things have rejected his claims. He refers to his deer as the new World Record on his web page ( www.zaftbuck.com ) I believe this to be a gross misrepresentation of the facts in order to drum up business for his operation, Wayne Zaft Hunting adventures. I hope you can set the record straight."

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I was kind of curious. Who actually gives a $hit?

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Amen Johnny, amen.

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I think people who were perhaps influenced to book a hunt with Wayne based on his World Record claim, would care considerably.

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hey if he could put me on a buck anywhere near as big as his I would book one. Record or not it' s a great buck. why shouldn' t he profit on his buck Milo Hanson has made a fortune on his and he was just the lucky person who happened to be in the right spot on a drive,get a life

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Again,

WHO CARES!!!
Get over it, really. It' s not going to change anyones life here one way or the other!!

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White-Raven,

Have you ever thought of posting something helpful or useful to other hunters? I was the same way as you are awhile back. I always wanted to get on here and ruffle some feathers. Two things I found out, no matter how hard you try, you can' t really make someone mad, and number two, helping people out is much more enjoyable than trying to get everyone fighting.

I love helping people who have questions about new bows or accessories, I love discussing hunts, what went right, what went wrong, I love discussing new gear and tests done on it, ect. It is much more enjoyable. Not only that, but, I have learned much more information this way. I have become a better and more knowledgable hunter since I stopped my childish posts.

I am not trying to attack or make fun of you, just giving you idea that you might want to follow. In the long run, it is a much better idea. I would much rather come on here and post and have other members saying " There is Buck Magnet again, he is a good guy, I hope he can help me with my problem" instead of them saying " O god, there is Buck Magnet, I wonder what type of crap he will be stirring today" .

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Hey Buckmagnet, well put! When I first started posting here I would look to piss people off or insult them, not good. I learned the hard way and I took heed! This is a VERY interesting place at times and it is sad at times as well. I have learned alot about hunting and about world events, past and present. Sometimes I read threads and don' t post because I am not sure of the facts or am just not sure of the subject. I learned that the hard way as well. Alot of what I learned about hunting here I couldn' t of got from a video. Its almost like " hands on" hunting here, which I like. You get all kinds of opinions from all kinds of DIFFERENT people, which is good, I think! A little culture if you may. Alot of good info and sadly alot of Bullsh*t is posted. Some people just don' t get it! By the way this is my first and only message board I have ever posted on, I am an Addict! Now I just sit and wait for the season to get here so I can put what I learned from everyone to use. THANKS EVERYBODY!

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I' m not here to be anyone' s cheerleader. That should be obvious by now. I' ll save the back slapping for deer camp. As far as I' m concerned if people like Zaft want the publicity, they' re going to get it. Zaft would have to be an even bigger fool than I realize if he thought he could put that story about the deer on " the airwaves" and not be put under a microscope. He sought the recognition, he' s getting it. Too bad for him most of it is negative. That' s life. Unfortunately for people like Zaft and Rompola there' s people out there like myself who don' t swallow everything they' re fed.

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And get it, and get it, and get it.[:' (]


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Want the 50 before these?[:' (] Did you give up on the kitty?[:o]

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Swallow?

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WHITE RAVEN.............

Gonna need a BIG glass of water to wash (choke) that down! LOL

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Nub....LOL:D:D

Can' t wait to see the cell phone print out:D:D

I think Zaft has a permanent home in his spank bubble[:o][:o]:D:D

The man is on a mission, got to give him that much[:-]

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I think Frank locked the wrong thread. ZAFT KILLED THIS DEER WITH A BOW! :D Unless we hear differently this weekend.[:o]

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Out of curiousity I looked up Unhealthy Obsession in the dictionary. As I suspected it said " Unhealthy Obsession" --(see White Raven) ;)

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Wow, you guys are harsh!!

I read the info you post on the Zaft buck, and find it intersting. I bet some of these guys that are arguing with you might even think that. But a couple of small comments or big long posts in some cases, you argue with. You respond with more comments and so on and on and on.

I say state what you know or what you hear and leave it at that. If you don' t want to argue, then don' t respond to these guys. It is as easy as that.

Now, I believe that zaft may have shot this deer. I shot an awesome 8 pointer last year that I wasn' t able to find. But if somebody pointed me to a farmer with a chewed on deer skull today and I looked at it, I could tell you if it was mine. But I don' t believe he should get credit with killing that deer, nor should I if mine happens to turn up (doubt it will, but you never know). Even a world record pickup would be nice to have on the wall and will make him some money.

If any of you guys don' t think a couple of coyotes can mangle a deer in no time flat, you need to talk to my buddy. He left one lay for a little over an hour one night, and when he got back, it was missing a front and a hind quarter.

Now I am not going to join anybodies side on this matter. I am just going to sit on the fence and wait for the results.

And if my response makes no sense, too bad..... I know what I meant!;)

And buckmagnet was right, at one time people wanted to get rid of him. But he figured things out and grew up a bit, and I look forward to most of his posts.

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nub,

True, but he was " deerhunting" as well. :D It was just a toss up and since I was checking back on the bowhunting forum to verify that it was the same thread then it was there that I decided to lock it up.

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IBM: Do you save all your replies for your moderator resume?[:o]:D Come on, jump down off that fence. Unless of course your stuck!:( Raven' s acually been voicing her opinions on other topics now too. Zaft should be water under the bridge soon.:D

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I wouldn' t be if I had ever seen WR post about any other subject but Wayne Zaft. But in the 50 or so posts here thats the only subject WR ever talks about. And it not just here WR posts the same stuff on many sites. This is old news!!!!! It just doesn' t seem normal for a person to " never" post about anything else but this one story thats been beat to death for months now.

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Come on, let us know what you meant :D :D :D

As far as the original post goes, it won' t effect my diet, sleep, or HUNTING.

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I have a question about P&Y and B&C. How is it that they are the autorities on WR' s? Don' t they limit there books mostly to North American Game? How about SCI? Isn' t that a more widely (worldwide) held scoring system for game animals? Anyone can easily defend P&Y as the authority if it fits there purpose, for instance if they had a personal problem or jealousy with another hunter.

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The main reason why P&Y and B&C are the authority is because it' s their scoring system. P&Y is bow only and B&C is are non P&Y legal bow kills and firearm harvests.

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Why such the critisism?

White Raven go ahead and post what you want about this. I read it and if I didn' t care I would move on to the next.
Some of you need to move on to the next and stop increasing your status from fawn to rack buck. We want info from this message board, not negative hash.