muzzleloader bullets and powder
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2007
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RE: muzzleloader bullets and powder
I used 295 grain Powerbelt hollow points with 100 gr of Pyrodex. 2 50gr pellets. It's pretty good at 100 yards. I killed a 8 pointer with this setup at 123 yards this year.
Here is my 100 yard target. I shot to the left and then adjusted the scope and shot the center 3.
Here is my 100 yard target. I shot to the left and then adjusted the scope and shot the center 3.
#5
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 56
RE: muzzleloader bullets and powder
I was using powerbelts and pyrodex but the powerbelts over 300g with 100 grains of powder would not be accurate at 50 yards they would tumble. I heard Black horn was a good powder to try.
#7
Join Date: Dec 2008
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RE: muzzleloader bullets and powder
I use the barnes expander mz 250 grain bullet over 110 grains of blackhorn 209 with exellent results at the range... 1.5 inch groups at 100yds i found that the cci 209M magnum primers to give me better ignitionwith the bh 209 powder.
#9
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,445
RE: muzzleloader bullets and powder
I don't know why you want to avoid jacketed bullets, but since you do, remember not to try to drive lead bullets too fast.
If you will keep your powder charges around 80 grains you can shoot powerbelts and have good results. That is enough power for deer.
You will see mixed results when using upwards of 100 grains of powder and take a close shot, say under 50 yds. The powerbelts are made of soft lead, even though they have a copperplating of some kind,and will fragment. That same load may perform just fine at 100 yds because the bullet has slowed down. Problem is, you never know if your shot will be 20 or 120 yds.
I shot lead conicals like T/C Maxiballs and Buffalo Bullets for quite a few years with great results. Charges were 90 and 100 gr Pyrodex. These slugs would generally provide pass-throughs. Recovered bullets showed quite a bit of mushrooming too. If you shoot these bullets in an in-line, again you must reduce the charge. In this case it is so they don't strip out of the rifling, which is probably 1:28 or something like it. My lead conicals were shot out of 1:48 guns.
I am currently shooting Hornady FPBs, which do have a jacket. They are a full-bore size conical (no sabot, or gas seal like a PowerBelt) with a large hollow base. They are meant to perform like the old Minie-bullet. The slug is slightly undersized but the hollowbase skirt expands to engage the rifling. They shoot very well for me, and they can stand to be driven to reasonable velocities. With BH 209 I think you can get them going around 1700 fps, which is not too shabby for a 350 gr, 50 cal slug.
If you will keep your powder charges around 80 grains you can shoot powerbelts and have good results. That is enough power for deer.
You will see mixed results when using upwards of 100 grains of powder and take a close shot, say under 50 yds. The powerbelts are made of soft lead, even though they have a copperplating of some kind,and will fragment. That same load may perform just fine at 100 yds because the bullet has slowed down. Problem is, you never know if your shot will be 20 or 120 yds.
I shot lead conicals like T/C Maxiballs and Buffalo Bullets for quite a few years with great results. Charges were 90 and 100 gr Pyrodex. These slugs would generally provide pass-throughs. Recovered bullets showed quite a bit of mushrooming too. If you shoot these bullets in an in-line, again you must reduce the charge. In this case it is so they don't strip out of the rifling, which is probably 1:28 or something like it. My lead conicals were shot out of 1:48 guns.
I am currently shooting Hornady FPBs, which do have a jacket. They are a full-bore size conical (no sabot, or gas seal like a PowerBelt) with a large hollow base. They are meant to perform like the old Minie-bullet. The slug is slightly undersized but the hollowbase skirt expands to engage the rifling. They shoot very well for me, and they can stand to be driven to reasonable velocities. With BH 209 I think you can get them going around 1700 fps, which is not too shabby for a 350 gr, 50 cal slug.